She's kidding, right? Her husband's administration protected us from North Korea for 8 years??? His administration gave North Korea a nuclear reactor and allowed nuclear secrets to escape from Los Alamos and be given to North Korea. Yeah, nice protection.

So, let me see if I got this. The Clinton administration successfully protected us from the threat of North Korean nukes for 8 years?

Thats like saying I installed an elephant proof fence in Arizona. Never mind the fact that there are no elephants in Arizona, thats just proof the fence works.

Reinnes is an idiot. If he is responding to McCain's op-ed in weekly standard then he either didn't read it clearly, or is enciting partisan politics with this egregious rebuttal. If he takes another look he will see that McCain not only points out President Clinton's misplaced trust in the N. Korean government, but also President Bush's lack of mettle to keep his initial stance with N. Korea. If he isn't rebutting that statement found on McCain's website, then I am mistaken. Otherwise, GET A CLUE BUDDY!

P.S.- Why do politicians think we citizens of the USA are gullible, dumb, and can't read.

It was the Clinton Administration ( which
Hillary was Co-President of ) that entered
into an agreement where we gave the North
Koreans over $1B in aid and technology in
exchanged for their ( unverified ) "promise"
not to develope nuclear weapons. The North
Koreans were cheating on this agreement even
before the Clinton Whitehouse could send out
a press release.

Mike

Protect us from North Korean nukes 'like the clinton administration did successfully for 8 years?!' they provided technology and reactors which FAST TRACKED the DPRK to nuke status...

We would not be having this debate if Clinton had not given the little pot bellied dog eater the nuclear technology to start with. This falls squarely in Bill Clinton's lap. You liberals blame Bush for everything and the public is getting sick and tired of your blame game and finger pointing.
When are you liberals coming up with some policies of your own? You say you have them, so WHERE ARE THEY? It sounds to me like they are a fart in the wind.

It’s not fair that North Korea and Iran are not able to have nuclear devices. If Hillary was in the oval office, I’m sure she would rectify this situation by giving these countries at least a few bombs to level the playing field. Then we wouldn’t need a missile defense system.

The idea that the Clinton/Carter appeasement of North Korea protected the US for eight years from the relentless North Korean drive for nuclear weapons is a chimera. The North Koreans bamboozled the dynamic duo while proceeding with all deliberate speed to the problem we face today.
The Clinton/Carter appeasement will reside in the history books alongside Neville Chamberlain's foolish effort to appease Adolph Hitler, immortalized in the wonderful phrase "We have achieved peace in our time".

Until the spokesman above understands that hatred of Bush and thirst for office are poor substitutes for a foreign policy, the American people will continue to be ill-served by his party.

Well if Ms Clinton would try to remember who gave N. Korea the know how to produce these weapons.. Now let me think I remember now.. It was her husband BILL CLINTON and his administration who gave them everything for a promise. Well guess what. N korea lied and now she has too also. Come on Ms. Clinton, Get your facts right b-4 opening your mouth.

"a missle defense system that has been tested and actually works" ... and where would that system be? ... this article is 'junk journalism'... it makes the democratic party look bad.

The Clinton administration was a failure on a massive scale but they have enough politic power/support to change how that message was delivered to the masses. The only truth protection around during the Clinton administration were the kind Bill used and Hillary allowed.

"She supports an approach that protects us from the threat of North Korean nuclear weapons, as the Clinton Administration successfully did for eight years".

This "approach" is what has led us to this exact point. Clinton's approach was to give in to North Korean demands. This is similar to giving the naughty child candy to shut them up. Of course such as with Al Queda, this is not his fault right? Time and time again we end up paying for the bad decisions of this former dirtbag and his administration. You get what you pay for people.

"Our Iraq policy is a failure. Iran is going nuclear and North Korea is testing nuclear weapons."

Diplomacy failed to prevent China, India, Pakistan, Israel, and North Korea from getting nuclear weapons.

If the standard is really to be nuclear weapons, then the situation in Iraq should actually be considered a one of the very few successes. Nobody will be building nuclear weapons in Iraq anytime soon.

Wait a minute...I thought Democrats were against the missile defense system that Reagan and Bush has been testing succesfully. Is she turning Republican for the next 28 days, or does she really think we are stupid?!!!

The Clinton Administration also sent Jimmy Carter over to get "reassurance" from North Korea that they wouldn't develop nuclear weapons with what they were given. I wonder if Jimmy even knew anything about peanut farming, let alone politics.

The Clintons and other democrats are relying on an uninformed and uneducated electorate to put them back in power. We won't be fooled again. Kudos to McCain for finally joining our side for a change.

If you were Kim I.J., what would you think you could do after seeing the failed policy in Iraq? Also, would you think it more or less advantageous to develop your own nuclear weapons ala Iran? Bush Policy? Where was it?

Senator Clinton wants to position herself so if the line her spokesman is feeding the public is received negatively, she can claim he should be blamed.
As for Pretty Boy Clinton's 8 years at the helm, well, he gave us the world that we have. A distinguished leader indeed.
And the co-president with him wants to bribe the world to like her and when she finishes, she can tour the world as a queen.

Like the Clinton administration did, the James Polk admistration protected us from the North Korean nuclear threat as well.

I guess the N. Korean nuclear program started the day Bush was swarn in? That's an impressive leap in technology! During the eight years your talking about Senator, the DPRK must have spent enriching the lives of the common N. Korean.
Oh! and Senator,
when you find this "New Direction" you keep talking about... Point me that way, because I can't seem to find it.
Regards,
Mike P
Sarasota, FL

I noticed that Hillary did not offer any plan of her own to deal with North Korea. The Clinton administration voted against the missle defense shield in the mid 1990's. If Bush were to attack North Korea or Iran the Dems would just call it a failed policy but they will bash him if the doesn't invade. They scare me.
Signed: A recovering Democrat.

Hillary is all bluster and hyperventilation, but has no real ideas, like the rest of her party. I want facts:1. What kind of Missile defense that works? NAME IT!,like do you know what part of the current program you are going to change? You don't like the military, are we sure you won't cut the program? 2. What exactly do you mean... we are more at risk for terror? Billy boy had the 1st Trade Center bombing, had 2 African/American Embassies, the Cole... and bombed an aspirin factory to cover for Monica. He said he failed on TV. It might have been the first honest thing he's said about himself. Bush had 9-11, and took Strong action, and we have NOT been hit again, is that what makes you so angry at Him? There is power in strength, not in weakness. And about N. Korea and Iran, they have 2 corrupt, insane, loony leaders, Hillary, just how are you going to help them... I forgot, you like liars and cheats, at least you married one, and stayed married! Hillary, you an angry woman, we don't want you leading this country... We don't want the Hilly-Billy team in the White House.

Maybe it's time we send in Jimmy Carter to straighten out this mess..OOPPs sorry, he was already there!!!

All the Clintons suck. That is the bottom line. They lie, cheat and cannot be trusted.

The policy of reacting to sword rattling by throwing them candy was a discrase and has resulted in N Korea trying this. Why do you think they want to talk only to us? Because history has shown we can be shaken down this way. Her husband caused this behavior. Now comes GWB and he's not biting. This will force China and other neighbors to deal with it.

Durning the Reagan, Bush 41 and Clintion years NK had the ability to assemble two nukes but didn't due to bi-lateral talks between our countries. It's been only since this idiot and his cronies came to power that all the bad guys are winning. GW is like a child who wont play if you don't play on his terms and then sits in the corner and pouts while our enimies continue to proceed with plans we could of stopped. So for all you neo-cons, GW loving , AMerica hating everything is NOT Clintons fault...get a grip and wake up!

Funny how most of you commentors are oblivous to the obvious... and the recorded facts.

In 2004 Bush stated in the debates that his North Korea policy was working, and was keeping the US safe.

In 2002, the United States released $95 million to North Korea as part of an agreement to replace its nuclear program.

"In releasing the funding, President George W Bush waived the Framework's requirement that North Korea allow inspectors to ensure it has not hidden away any weapons-grade plutonium from the original reactors," the BBC reported in 2002.

Bush's Presidential determination said that the decision was "vital to the national security interests of the United States."

The directive said that the United States was "continuing to make significant progress on eliminating the North Korean ballistic missile threat, including further missile tests and its ballistic missile exports."

get a grip people...

Why does this administration blame everything on Clinton. Bush has been in office six years, what has he done about N. Korea. NOTHING!

So I guess Bush gets a free pass for ignoring North Korea for six years - just hoping it would go away. And Bush has been on the stump saying that Dems wait to get attacked then do something about it. Hell, at least Clinton engaged the North Koreans. You may not like it, but ignoring them has led to this. The republicans are going down in flames for their lack of credibilty:

Moral values? See Rep. Foley

Protecting the nation? North Korea just detonated a nuclear bomb.

Wake up, idiots. Your emperor has no clothes.

Politicians think your gullible and naive because you are. The proof is in the 200 and 2004 elections. I know reading history is not a strong point for America - but N Korea made the majority of there nuclear advancements after 2000 thanks to Georges good ally President Musharaf of Pakistan. Then again I could be a politician so dont expect you to believe me.

His administration gave North Korea a nuclear reactor - John

False. The NK reactor does not come from the US. The Clinton framework agreement had promised to give NK a light-water reactor, which cannot be used to produce nuclear weapons. But it was never built.

and allowed nuclear secrets to escape from Los Alamos and be given to North Korea. - John

False. No nuclear secrets ever left Los Alamos. The scientist accused and smeared in that case was cleared of all suspicions. In any case, you are confused: the accusation was that he had given nuclear secrets to China, not NK.

in
exchanged for their ( unverified ) "promise"
not to develope nuclear weapons. - Mike

False. The agreement was verified. All NK nuclear fuel was kept under lock and key and constantly monitored by international inspectors, until the Bush Administration declared it was suspending the framework agreement due to unspecified "violations". It was at this point that NK kicked out the inspectors and began turning its fuel into bombs.

The North Koreans were cheating on this agreement - Mike

Not significantly. The nuclear fuel remained locked up. They did violate the agreement by doing some clandestine research into uranium enrichment, but the US violated it by failing to provide the aid we had promised.

they provided technology and reactors which FAST TRACKED the DPRK to nuke status... - E

That is false. No reactors or technology were provided. See above.

Hillary is right.

What a bunch of dolts making comments here, geeeees-us!

Donald Rumsfeld OK'd the sale of reactors to N. Korea when he was on the board of ABB ,and made himself a handsome profit, so there is enough blame to go around. No one in Washington is clean on this one. Once again profit wins out over our security.

Clinton was the worst president this country has ever had . Maybe if he had a decent policy with North Korea we would not be in this mess . It dates back to him and the 1BIL. he gave them . He laid perfect ground-work for Bush . Clinton was never any good before he was in command ? Think about all the women he had to have . He even lied in front of the Supreme Court . Nixon had to step down , why was Clinton so special ??

"...supports a missile shield that works"? - that's like saying I support the atomic bomb, but not the manhattan project. This is why people hate her - so much BS.

The technology Clinton gave N. Korea was incapable of producing weapons grade material. check your facts. and, after labeling N. Korea as part of the axis of evil, the bush administration disengaged diplomatic talks with them for five years while perusing a war in a country that had no WMD's. We now know what happened in those five years. Bush has been in office for FIVE YEARS!!! This administration is responsible for FIVE YEARS of inaction. typical republican response to blame everybody else when they control the entire government. buffoons!!

Hmmm, and where did North Korea get the light-water for those reactors? I wonder? Hmmmmm.....

Lets think about this for a second. if we remember our nuclear history from world war two the germans and the united states raced for a supply of heavy water. why? because at the time heavy water reactors were the only known way to make a nuclear reactor. heavy water reactors also have an interesting side effect of not only producing heat and power but of creating the element plutonium. what else is plutonium used for i wonder? oh thats right, bombs.

North Korea was in the process of trying to make nuclear reacotrs for plutonium production, ie heavy water breader reactors. The Clinton administration did decided to help north korea in nuclear power generation. We gave them light water reactors, ie reactors that used normal drinking water not heavy water. Light water reactors do not produce plutonium. elimintating the norths reason/excuse for building the breader reactors. We gave north korea a nuclear power generation capability and economic aid in return for a promise not to develope nuclear weapons. heavy monitoring of facilities and carrot and stick diplomacy by all acounts slowed thier research.

i will not say stopped because they probably did continue research. however by all acounts the policy kept north korea from developing weapons. The bush administrations saber rattling and scorn forced north korea to resume there program. By some acounts it started up again in full about 2-3 years ago. Lets think about who was in office at the time. Now i will not defend north korea as a state or its provocational policies but there is something to be said about this administations failure to keep them under control. especially after naming them an "axis of evil".

Clinton dealt with the father of this North Korean whack job. His policies weren't any worse than they are now and besides, he didn't call them part of an Axis of Evil, which fired them all up in the first place. George Bush is the worst President EVER in the 230 year history of American government. I smell desperation on the part of the Republicans. Since 1970, Democrats have had the presidency 12 years, the Republicans 24. Now who do you want to blame for everything. Wolf Blitzer shouldn't have kept at Condy Rice about North Korea being Clinton's fault. You suck, Wolf, very unfair of you.

Not surprisingly, these comments reflect a lack of understanding of this complex problem, particularly the specifics of the agreement struck in 1994 between the US and NK.

Feel free to learn something before spouting your ignorance. Here's a start:

http://www.isis-online.org/publications/dprk/book/af.html

and

http://www.army.mil/professionalwriting/volumes/volume1/august_2003/8_03_1.html

If you had bothered to make yourself minimally aware of this issue, you would not have said patently idiotic statements like "they provided technology and reactors which FAST TRACKED the DPRK to nuke status..."

And Roy, I find it interesting that you open by calling "Riennes and idiot," then go on to admit you have no idea to what statement he was responding (if any). Thanks for proving your other point, that "citizens of the USA are gullible, dumb, and can't read." Way to go.

...and

Rumsfeld was the only American to sit on the board of a company which six years ago sold two light water reactors to North Korea.

Rumsfeld was a non-executive director of ABB, a European engineering giant based in Zurich, when it won a $200m contract to provide the design and key components for the reactors. The current defense secretary sat on the board from 1990 to 2001, earning $190,000 a year.

I see the Clinton bashers are out in full force.
Must be an election coming...

That's okay, boys. Brainwash your way into Boltonland. Once we nuke 'em, those NK terrorists will play nice and give us their oil.

Clinton is evil. I think he had something to do with so many disasters: the San Francisco earthquake, the Lincoln assassination,
the sinking of the Titanic, the Great Depression, the black plague,
the canceling of the TV show 7th Heaven, and it's renewal. The list goes on and on. We are so lucky to have all these bright, honest, articulate republicans in charge! Look how well things are going!

Colin Powell as Sec of State: "Powell lauded what is known as the Agreed Framework. 'The previous administration I give great credit to for freezing that plutonium site,' he said. 'Lots of nuclear weapons were not made because of the Agreed Framework and the work of President Clinton and his team.' "

The reactors they were given could not be used for producing any weapons materials. The previous reactors that could were under constant inspection. The agreements were never violated (though they made a transparent unsuccessful attempt to circumvent them and were promptly caught.)

No, the bomb program was revived publicly in response to Bush's childish bravado and threats. Since then Bushies continued to refuse to discuss anything whatsoever in the belief that the best foreign policy is ignorant belligerence backed up by nothing.

Clinton gave N. Korea a basketball and a billion dollars..

Great Policy...

I hope she wins so she can get crucified in the world of public opinion. She thinks paying off the Jews in Upstate was something? Wait till she deals with the religous right..

Plastik

So who's going to blame the Clinton Administration for Dubya sending $95 million to N.Korea to build its nuclear capabilities in 2002? By the way, Bush then waived the requirement that North Korea allow inspectors to ensure it has not hidden away any weapons-grade plutonium from the original reactors.
Let me see... must be Chelsea's fault.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/1908571.stm

Thing is, no matter what Bill Clinton did, George Bush has had six unopposed years in which he could have fixed the situation with North Korea. Six years in which he could have persued any policy he thought was necessary to put down the "axis of evil." How f***ing powerless is George Bush if he was unable to stop the 9/11 attack, catch Osama Bin Laden, or prevent the rise of nukes in Iran and North Korea?

RICE BACKS CLINTON ON THIS. WHO IS CORRECT RICE OR MCCAIN?

RICE:…We have been through bilateral talks with the North Koreans in the
1994 Agreed Framework, it didn't hold. They…

BLITZER: That was a mistake the Clinton administration…

RICE: No. I will not blame anyone for trying. I just know that the 1994 agreement, of course, didn't hold. The North Koreans cheated.

BLITZER: Is there any evidence that what the Clinton administration did helped North Korea build these bombs?

RICE: Oh, I think North Korea has been persistent and has been consistent in pursuing this nuclear weapons program for decades. Now, it is going to have to be fought. And the international community is speaking with one voice very loudly, because the North Koreans crossed an important line when they proclaimed that they had conducted a nuclear test.

That is really dumb. She's the smartest woman in the democratic party?

Who gave nuclear capability plus money to No. Korea It wasn't Bush It was Billy Boy.That is the Clinton "LEGACY" We don't want him anywhere near the White House again!!!

Who gave nuclear capability plus money to No. Korea It wasn't Bush It was Billy Boy.That is the Clinton "LEGACY" We don't want him anywhere near the White House again!!!

Stop the Clinton spin. FACT is that Bush failed to continue the programs that were in place. Enlighten yourself, http://tinyurl.com/jjn8q

Sickens me, that my Senator, John McCain, has stuped to his new low. So much for working together...geez!

Why does no one ever point out that Iran and North Korea are becoming more dangerous UNDER THIS PRESIDENT'S WATCH? UNDER THIS PRESIDENT, they are becoming more dangerous. Hello!

Your boy has been prez for 6 YEARS!!!!
this blame Clinton is getting old.
Bushit has had YEARS to deal with Korea -
he will not even engage them directly and
even though this policy has not worlked for the
last 5 years. For a party that claims they
are the party of personal responsibility all you
evil greedy bastards have done is BLAME everyone
but yourself!!

Once again, the republiCONs are not accepting ANY repsonsibility.

The republicans have had control of the two houses and the presidency for so long, "trotting out the Clinton boogeyaman" simply does not wash.

Stop listening to that fool Rush Limbaugh and get a clue.

Examine the Billary response.
All conclusions all the time.
No facts. No evidence. No reasoning.
Empty-headed propaganda disguised as political reasoning.
Slow learners, those two.
Examine the 8 lonnnnnnnngggg years of evidence if you dare.
I don't have time to waste on them.

WHAT A LIER CLINTON IS!!! IT WAS HER HUSBANDS POLICY AND AGREEMENT THAT FAILED. I LOVE WHAT BOLTON TOLD KERRY IN A HEARING A WHILE BACK, KERRY WAS BADGERING BOLTON ABOUT TALKS WITH N.KOREA AND WHY DO WE NOT FOLLOW WHAT CLINTON DID BECAUSE IT WAS SO SUCCESSFUL, BOLTON SHOT BACK , NO IT WAS NOT, THEY HAVE ALREADY IGNORED THEIR AGREEMENT AND WAS NOT SUCCESSFUL AT ALL, IT SHUT KERRY UP, RUSH HAD THIS ON TODAY, IT WAS AWSOME. SHE JUST KNOWS ONLY TO LIE, BUT WHAT ELSE WOULD EXPECT FROM THAT FAMILY.

IF you recall, one of the first things Bush did when he got into office was to overturn Clinton's N. Korea policy. Now they have nukes, and the right-wingers are blaming Clinton????

It's like a guy whose pants fall down after he takes his belt off blaming the belt for not holding up his pants.

Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld sat on the board of the company that won a $200 million contract to provide the design and key components for the reactors. The company is Zurich-based engineering giant ABB, which signed the contract in early 2000
Rumsfeld, the only American director on the ABB board has never acknowledged that he knew the company was competing for the nuclear contract.

Umm, guys...few if any of the above statements are true. First of all, E, as part of the 1994 accord, NK agreed to "lock up" the plutonium they were developing in exchange for "light reactors," which are reactors that do not and cannot use fuel with a duel use for weaponization. Still irritated that we would send them any type of such technology? Well, fret not! Why? Because the Senate refused to ratify the accord, and we never sent the technology and assistance to NK. It is arguable that we were instantly in violation of our own agreement. Umm, John...are you referring to the spys planted by the CHINESE? Chuckle...do they all look alike to you or something? The Chinese are the not the NK, and vice versa. And, huh?, the DK had in their possession and were developing "enriched" plutonium...not any type of plutonium is good enough for weapons, and enriched plutonium is basically only used for weapons. So, in fact, the NK had in fact the most difficult component of a nuclear weapon. The Clinton admin found out what NK was doing and negotiated with them to stop enriching and to "lock up" the plutonium under IAEA oversight. Mike - our agreement with the NK required them to lock up the plutonium and available for inspection with the IAEA, which they did until 2002 (2 years into the Bush admin). The aid we sent them was food basically. None of these agreements are the "perfect solution," but all of them are quite a bit better than the current policy which resulted in...well, a boom this morning. This is not a Clinton fan-boi post, but a little knowledge of actual facts would be useful in weighing the arguments. If you still want to fault Clinton after confirming the above, that's fine, but I guess I would ask you what you would propose instead? It is a fact that NK did nothing with their plutonium in the 6+ years after 1994. Bush decided anything Clinton = "stupid policy." So, no "boom" during Clinton and a "boom" under Bush. Whose policy is better? Seems like an obvious answer to me, but maybe you guys see more clearly or farther than I do.

Edit on my previous post -since the 1994 Accord was not a treaty, it was not proffered to the Senate for ratification. However, Congress refused to fund it. So, the promises we made regarding aid were never kept. Blame that on whomever you will.

What I am interested in is the REASON why people are criticizing Clinton? Do people feel like NK is a problem and a permanent all encompassing solution was available...ahem, extermination, that Clinton failed to take ...(ahem, because he was too much of a sissy)? I guess I don't understand the complaint when Clinton caused NK to give up processing plutonium for a weapon for over 6+ years.

Senator John McCain attacked Clinton's framework agreement in 1994, just as he does now. You can't have a carrot/sticks tactic with all carrots, but no sticks.

Clinton based his foreign policy on trusting a mad, irrational figurehead in Kim Jong Il. He made Kim promise to halt his nuclear weapons in return for BILLIONS in aid for food, technology, and energy. Kim kept pursuing enriching uranium and used the food for his standing army.

For more about this story and other McCain topics, please visit: Senator John McCain attacked Clinton's framework agreement in 1994, just as he does now. You can't have a carrot/sticks tactic with all carrots, but no sticks.

Clinton based his foreign policy on trusting a mad, irrational figurehead in Kim Jong Il. He made Kim promise to halt his nuclear weapons in return for BILLIONS in aid for food, technology, and energy. Kim kept pursuing enriching uranium and used the food for his standing army.

For more about this story and other McCain topics, please visit: http://michiganformccain.blogspot.com/

JUST BLAME CLINTON

Man that's getting old. Your buddy Rummy made a couple hundred thou$and as the only American on the Board of the company that sold Kim his toys.

I don't remember the Left constantly blaming W's daddy for the craphole early 90s economy and the first WTC bombing...

The issue here is the position of John McCain, not Bill or Hillary Clinton, or even George Bush. It's his opinion that needs to be scutinized. I find it interesting that on most international issues, from Iraq to Iran and now Korea, his response typically leans toward the use of increased force or a more aggressive reponse on the part of the US. This is highly suspicious coming from a man known for his temper,and angry outbursts. I caution against blindly trusting the judgement of Mr. McCain who in this case and others may be displaying the symptoms of Post Traumatic Stress Disorder from his years as a POW, rather than reasonable thinking. He is sounding dangerous

Hey now ... let's be fair all of you who are blaming Clinton as well as those reading from the "GOP How to Deflect Blame and Blame Everyone Else for Chimpy's VERY Short-Comings" Playbook ... you're forgetting to blame his dick as well.

Far be it from the RePUKElicans to actually blame their own Commander-In-Chief for his lousy foreign policy. I mean, Chimpy's ONLY HAD 5 YEARS TO DO SOMETHING. Probably too busy still trying to get through "My Pet Goat".

The hypocrisy is ASTOUNDING.

I like all you right-wing numb-nuts who actually think what you see on Faux News and hear from Rush Pill-Head Limbaugh is fact. When...in FACT. Rumsfailed, Wolfwit, and Dickhead Cheney sold jnuke tech to Iran under President Ford. Also, Rumsfailed sat on a board that just 3 YEARS AGO sold more nuke tech to Iran.

But, seriously, none of you neocondumbs care anything about truth, peace, honor, integrity, faith, or values. It's a well-known FACT.

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