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Foley: The Democratic Playbook

It may not be as smooth as the Republicans' Stirling engine, but the Democrats' party committees are hitting on all cylinders today. They want candidates in each and every House and Senate race to push the Foley scandal to its hilt.

(Sample DSCC release: “Foley Sex Scandal Hits DeWine.” Sample WI Dem party release: “Foley Scandal: What Did Green Know and When Did He Know it?”)

Here's Dems' playbook:

1. Pay no heed to the distinction between the e-mails and IMs. There's no evidence (yet) that any Republican leaders knew about Foley's cybersex IMs. There's plenty of evidence that they knew how uncomfortable the "overly friendly" e-mails made at least one page. So the Dems will press the GOP on what they knew about the former and will constantly, in their press releases, refer to the "GOP's knowledge of the sexually explicit e-mails."

2. Enlarge the wedge between House leaders. The tension this weekend between Speaker Dennis Hastert and NRCC chair Tom Reynolds was thick. Dems want it to suffocate the party and throw the Republicans even further off their game.

3. Be aggressive about how Dems will -- and are -- protecting children. Dems want to keep the issue poisonous in a way that's clear and direct to middle America. (In other words: this ain't a hullabaloo over earmarks.)

4. Choose unimpeachable spokespeople to be their public faces. The DCCC has enlisted Patty Wetterling, its candidate for MN 06, to call for "a thorough investigation" of the House leadership over Foley. Wetterling's son, Jacob, was kidnapped in 1989.

5. Deride the Republicans for incompetence. How can you possibly trust them with national security if you can't trust them with your own children?

6. Bring up Terri Schiavo's case and compare the heated GOP attention back then to their allegedly lax attention to the welfare of their pages.

7. Compare what the GOP leadership says about Foley with what Republicans said about Jack Abramoff.

8. Use the Foley cash. Already, the DSCC wonders why George Allen didn't immediately return the Foley contributions. The quotable Phil Singer: “It is more than a little disturbing that Allen apparently sees nothing wrong with holding on to contributions he got from an adult who has been caught sending sexually explicit email to children." Allen and Rep. Heather Wilson (R-NM) will return the cash. But the NRCC already spent the $550K and won't.

Here's what the Democrats hope to accomplish:

1. Republicans will flinch before they try and use "values" as a cudgel. Can this NRCC ad against Brad Ellsworth be run in this environment?

2. Democrats now have a new way to respond to the Republicans when they go negative: "They're just trying to distract you from the scandal."

3. GOP candidates will be thrown on the defensive, generally.

4. Link House candidates -- and not just Tom Reynolds -- to the sense (fair or not) that that the GOP was hesitant to investigate or even poke around into Foley's life because they didn't want to jeopardize their majority. That is, they craved power to the point where they ignored or suppressed warnings. [MARC AMBINDER]

147 Comments

Both the Republicans and Democrats should be ashamed of themselves. It's actually embarassing to have these people represent us.

Once again, the Democrats confuse politics with policy. What are they offering in way of policy?

Keeping our country safe from the terrorists is the big issue. People can see through what you wish for and what the country wants.

Keeping our country safe from the terrorists is the big issue. People can see through what you wish for and what the country wants.

I think it is plain sick of the Democrat to a Child Molestation for there benifit. Let's not thing about the harm that happen to the under age child, let gain seats. Democratics are happy as can be.

I am so glad the Hotline is together with the Republican party to expose the Democrats who think this Foley
thing is important to US voters. Most voters could care less about this congressman. Most Americans want to spend more on the defense dept. no matter the cost to protect us from Sadam Hussain and his weapons of mass
distruction that he has hiding in Syria...and to preserve
gun rights to protect our children in their schools.

you the democratic party are a party of rats and creeps. you are what is wrong with the nation today. Who in you party have you punished, that reprobate Clinton or "dollar" Jefferson or in fact anyone. Why don't you try the truth or is that against the credo of the democratic party, With you history on how you feel about the war we are in, if you do take over I hope you all have had camel riding lessons and know your Koran! At one time the democratic party had nerve and sense now you are the party of cowardice.

Let's talk about the elephant sitting in the living room. This scandal is not about a Republican Congressman, or a Democrat for that matter. It is, as usual, yet another faggot pedophile who's used his position of authority to get close to his prey - that's the issue. He's already "waltzed" his way (read the IM transcripts) into some minor's poop shoot, yet for PC reasons, no one wants to touch that fact.

GOP gone in 2006.

Sounds like a DNC intern's wet dream. But nothing more than that - a dream.

What is particularly disturbing about this whole episode is that it suggests that the House leadership was more concerned about protecting a congressional seat than protecting children. In other words, the leadership chose pedophiles over children. Shameful.

you Republicans have some good new lines

"Hanging chad" how did it get to hanging anyway?
"overly friendly" are you people just that stupid?

The Democratic Party is PATHETIC.

What did the Desm know and when? It is obvious they knew- CREW knew, and they support the Dems. They've been hiding the evidence on the DCCC blog, but one of the posters there said he had the IMs before ABC. The IMs were the sexually explicit ones. The Dems are overplaying their hand, let's see if the media looks at them too. They had the most to gain in all of this.

Wow. Makes me want to take a shower. I'm not sure what's more perverse, Foley's actions or the Dem's gleeful, hyena-like rush to capitalize on them. Folks, this ship is going down.

Democrats can go and fuck themselves. They know they can't run on the issues, so they get down and dirty. God help us when the day comes that they take over the House and Senate and then they are the ones in charge of protecting this country from terrorists. What a bunch of lightweight pussies.

All Republican candidates up for re-election need to take off the gloves now and beat their asses before it's too late.

Mike
Houston, TX

What is the source of this information? It looks like pure, biased conjecture.

It was hard to get by the first numbered item, because Bay Buchanon, and Rep Capito (the 2nd Republican on the House committee supervising pages) and many other Republicans have pointed out that the emails, alone, should have raised sufficient suspicion. The media often mentions the email asking for a photo, and doesn't even mention the even creepier email where Foley discusses another mail page, named "Will" and his being underage and being in "great shape."

If you are quoting Republican talking points, please have the decency to report your source.

Thank you.

Has foley even been convicted for anything?

I know that both Democrats and Republicans get criticized for trying to politicize things like this, but isn't it still bad? Can we stop defending him?

It's ridiuclous that the Dems are looking to beat this into the ground, it really is. However, it seems just as ridiculous for the GOP's defense to be simply that the Dems are looking to beat it into the ground.

It isn't a party issue, it's just one person. Both sides should realize that.

With the Democrats so concerned about homosexual behavior, it would appear that revival has truly come to Capitol Hill. Why, any day now, I expect to hear that Barney Frank is leading prayer meetings before congressional meetings.

Hooked on Reletivism...

We have a Republican man in Congress who sent e-mails to teenage boys asking them what they were wearing, and an entire party, the Democrats, whose primary constituency, besides the teachers' unions, is homosexual men and lesbian women. I hope it won't come as a surprise to anyone that a big part of male homosexual behavior is interest in young boys. (Take a look at anyone renting Endless Summer next time you are at the video store.)
http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=10434

Bring it on!

I WOUNDN'T VOTE FOR A LYING DEM IF YOU THREATENED MY LIFE.

And so are you saying the democrats have a bad strategy? Because the one you've laid out looks pretty good, pointing out the hypocracy of the republicans. Finally the democrats get their position together!

This is really sick! How sad that there might be people who actualy believe this. Amazing.

What I can't figure out is, in the past 2 house members were not forced to resign when it was revealed they had sex, not just emails. One had sex with a female and another had sex with a male and was proud of it plus he was elected again. The had sex with house pages. Nobody talks about the pervert barney frank and his basement homies. Homo's get a pass on capital hill for some reason. Homo's are allowed to exist on capital hill. It should not be so. Perverts in congress is a shame, but what can i say, people elected the homo barney frank several times. sick.

The Republican playbook:

1 and only) Abramoff-ize this scandal.

The Republicans did a decent job this spring of muddying the waters of the Abramoff scandal by suggesting that Dems were in on it too. That'll be the goal here, too.

They'll do everything they can to dig up a loyal Young Republican page to claim he was harassed by a Democrat - and there are plenty of them out there who would be willing to sell their souls if it meant getting in good with party leadership. Whether it's true or not is irrelevant at this point - all they need is the possibility in order to muddy the waters.

They want the public to think "they're all the same." It doesn't make Republicans look good, but that doesn't matter - the point is to make sure Democrats don't look any better as an alternative.

A clear distinction between Republicans and Democrats on this is their worse nightmare.

I have it on good authority that the source of the email and instant messages to ABC was...Bill Clinton. And boy is he laughing. His face is turning red and and he's having difficulty breathing from laughing so hard. You've seen that laugh before.

So in other words Democrats plan to accuse Republicans of behaving like...Democrats. That's good enough to convince the choir but I'm not so sure it will float with independents.

Where were the investigations requested when these people did bad things & kept getting re-elected


Dems never have sex scandals, oh, except for
Rep. Wilbur Mills (D-Ark.)
Rep. Wayne Hays (D-Ohio)
Rep. John Young (D-Tex.)
Rep. Allan Howe (D-Utah)
Rep. Fred Richmond (D-N.Y.)
Rep. Thomas Evans (R-Del.)
Gerry Studds (D-Mass.)
Sen. Brock Adams (D-Wash.)
Rep. Jim Bates (D-Calif.)
Rep. Gus Savage (D-Ill.)
Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass.)
Sen. Charles Robb (D-Va.)
Rep. Mel Reynolds (D-Ill.)
on and on.
It's in both parties!

So they have a known butt-pirate with no stable relationship in the House sneding boys "over friendly" e-mails and nobody suspects everything? The House works together. Many of them eat in the same places, work out in the same places, get their hair cut by the same barbers. They attend the same parties and fund raisers... Get drunk together... Hastert looks like he's been drinking as he tries to lie his way out of this...

Of course they knew, They didn't care. He was winning, and if winning meant throwing him a boy a week they would have done it...

The lesson is repeated: The Repugs will do anything to maintain power. They are evil.

cudgel? poor issue choice, "Congress for Mom & Dad".


Throw the
Son
Of
Bush's
OUT

Get we get Lewinsky to star in the ads?

Add at the end of each statement, VOTE FOR CHANGE, VOTE DEMOCRAT

you're gay

you are a crazed nut! why are you trying to gloss this over and make it seem like a democrat ploy? foley is a sick man and you need to check yourself!

Just another example of how sick the democratic party of today is. They have no plans, no ideas, no vision, just venemous poison hatered! Does anyone really want to put these people back in power? Well, at least there is one thing that always makes Republican candidates look good on election day; democrats.

So let me get this straight, Dems did not call for Clinton to quit when he had actual sex with an itern. Even though he had phone calls to her, but no IM's of course, so that is ok. He is even a rappist! Please explain the double standard if you can or dare to?

Isn't it always interesting when politicians hand their opposition things like this on a silver platter?

DO YOU KNOW WHEN A REPULICAN IS LIEING ? ? HIS LIPS ARE MOVING ! ! THIS IS NOT A JOKE ! !

QUOTE: "3. Be aggressive about how Dems will -- and are -- protecting children. Dems want to keep the issue poisonous in a way that's clear and direct to middle America. (In other words: this ain't earmarks.)" END QUOTE.

THIS (^^) is interesting in terms of website management because I've seen a few specific-issue threads spammed recently and referrer-spam link attempts from porno spammer sites to my website AFTER I published a critique thread about Bill Clinton's FOX interview, AND after I published a critique about Congressman Foley's wretched illness and despicable behaviors (I think that last description also applies to Bill Clinton, however).

None of my other general interest site areas/threads on a blog were spammed, just these two themes (AND a few that exposed irregular commerce by godaddy.com).

My site is not advertiser supported but represents a single author enterprise, and reflects my individual opinions about issues, experiences and often includes politics. I am a conservative and a Catholic, a Christian, however, and seeing the aggressive assault upon these uniquely themed threads at my website (spam hits every two minutes now for several weeks upon these isolated threads that I've described here, combined with the recent spate of porno-spammer, faux websites attempting referrer spam to my site) coincide with the threads about: godaddy.com, Bill Clinton and Foley -- my threads on my site about these issues are critical of those three issues/individuals, not sympathetic to any of them.

I consider this recent malignment of my site, these threads only, to be an attempt to silence interaction (closing commenting and trackbacks on the blog is the only solution for part of this problem) and to, in effect, "attack" and malign any critic (of these specific issues/individuals). They're certainly not going to gain sympathy nor support by associating with my site, their spam is deleted unread and their offline porno referrer links are blocked; however, the spammer behavior is an assault upon my website in a retort fashion, a "punishing" of a site that complains about these issues.

Because I do believe the spamming is an effort to attack conservative websites. I note that the vile Foley resigned once unearthed, while Democrats found to be similarly engaged in vile behaviors are cheered on by supporters (look at Bill Clinton's personality surge today, a denial if not affirmation of the man's person, amorality and life behaviors by those who popularize him). In the case of this gameplan by Democrats, they are proving themselves to be yet again the Party of the amoral and degenerate. Foley is a sick, perverse person and he's not the first homosexual who's attempted to defame the Republican Party and Republicans in general (consider Foley as a Democrat and what the reaction to his behaviors would be); however, Foley has resigned his office (good); his behavior is disgusting and Republicans everywhere reject him in those terms. But in the case of comparable Democrats, they remain in office, even gain additional voter support among Democrats for similar and even worse behaviors and personal amorality. And then malign those who disagree with them.

They certainly prove time and time again that Democrats are those who use terrorist tactics on the internet in the case of pornography and comment and trackback spam targeting conservatives and conservative websites who raise issues that threaten the Democrats' ongoing attempt to power grab.

This is no surprise. Democrats have built an entire structure on rumor, innuendo and lies. (e.g., Karl Rove was behind the Valerie Plame leak). They are all for the war on terror, but fight everything that could actually stop terrorists. They reccomend the ineffective and fight the effective. Demos had a bad few weeks recently. They are having a good week now. In a few weeks, they will have more bad weeks. However, from now until November, expect the dirtiest politics you have ever seen from them. It started last week. Every week, they will start a new rumor or scandal. You can bet they knew about this one for some time and waited until after the Florida primary to leak it.

Good to see that pols are running on real things like issues and what they actually believe in....instead we get the usual GOTCHA! game. Congress is sickening.

disgusting tactics by the dems.

I hate Democrats. They are self serving power brokers who will do and say anything to get power. My hatred for Democrats started years ago when as a young teenager I read Communist Manifesto by Karl Marx and compared it to the party platforms. The Communist Manifesto and the Democrat party platform were basically the same. I was shocked that Marxists were spewing their collectivist lies through the Democrat party. As far as I am concerned they are evil people with evil intentions. Just listen to their hate filled words and the anger on their faces. They are power thirsty and will say anything and promise crumbs to the unexpecting sheep as they strive to consolidate power into the hands of a few. Sound familar? Read the history of the communist movement. Do you ever notice how Democrat evil doers never resign but fight to keep power( Kennedy kills a young girl, Barney Frank runs a male prostitution ring out of his house, Slick Clinton, where do I start--Juanita Broderick, Paula Jones, Lies, mysterious deaths and suicides, Whitewater, document shredding, Waco, etc, etc, etc).Compare to every Republican who commits far less evil and they humbly, respectfully resign for the good of the country. The Dems don't care about the country, they only care about their lust for power. I hate Democrats.

Surely this will back fire on the democrats, good gosh one only has to look at their member ship and the pages that had sex and even prostituted, and the one congress man that cliton pardoned after serving part of his sentence fo child molestation.. where are they coming from...

It sickens me that any political party -- democrat or republican -- would use something like this so blatantly as a tool to win an election. What happened to issues? I don't make any excuses for Foley and he should certainly be punished appropriately if determined to be guilty. But the excerpts above show that the democrats (or, equally the republicans in other scandals) are more excited about keeping this in the spotlight than to actually DO something.

This will only back fire on Democrats and get the Republicans out to vote. The public is not stupid. We are sick of of the Dems. dirty politics. They circle around their their members and never ask them to step down. If Bush had done what Clinton did, he would of stepped down or his party would have forced him out. Bring it on Dems this will back fire big time.Kennedyand family,Clinton's, Leahey, Shumer, Gore, Byrd,Webb etc. have no moral compass. WHAT HYPOCRATS and the public knows. Thank God for Talk radio and Fox.

The handling of this, by the Democratic Party, is going to blow up in their faces. What this investigation will show is that the e-mails were all that Hastert and company knew about. Someone, for political reasons, kept the Instant Messages secret, using them after Foley's denial. If it is found that the people that held these IM's were Democrats or their operatives, and they've held them for a long time, waiting to use them after the primary and just before the election, the Democrats are toast.

SHOCKING! TITILATING! INCREDIBLE! The Dems have had their Barney Frank gay scandal and he's still in Congress. Foley, the GOP culprit at least had the class to resign. HO HUM!

What a joke democrats concenred about sex. Where were they when Bill Clinton was getting it on with a 21 year old intern in the oval office. He had phone sex on several occassions. The complete hypocracy of the democrats is astounding. I was not going to vote this election because we had not reduced taxes, but now I will vote republican because the democrats have no shame.

Ray Bergman

AP says they're starting to return Foley's donations. Incidentally however, the NRCC wants his 2.x mil in cash to be donated to them though...


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061003/ap_on_el_ho/foley_money

Hello America, The democrats still have NO PLANS to offer.

While it appears that Rep Foley is unfit as a US government official, it seems to me that the lynch mob has appeared prior to full proof.
I say this because I am black-listed from sending E-mails into another country because my E-mail address has been used by spammers promoting pronographic messages. That is, my E-mail address has been essentially appropriated and now I am suffering. I have asked my DSL provider what can be done - nothing is the answer.
So, while appearances are damning in many cases, such appearances aren't necessarily so!

I think that Democrats have shot their wad (excuse the pun) on the lumping one person's behavior with an entire party's behavior. Most outside the Beltway aren't going to take this as more than another example of why we have such low expectations, simply higher hopes, for the integrity and performance of our elected officials.

My belief is that the greater majority know that elections are a month away and this stinks of the usual dirty politics right before we go in and cast a vote and will not impact our vote for the candidate who will represent us at home. And the public is well aware of the sterling examples of criminal behavior from both parties in seemingly every single session of Congress.

Where is Trafficant today, where is Kennedy today and did he drive, Condin, Clinton, William Jefferson, shall we look to New Jersey, shall we look to Texas, is there any one of our 50 states who has someone righteous enough to throw the first stone? Probably not. And, you know what, ladies and gentlemen? In about a month, we're going to the polls and casting a vote with clear vision of our own local candidate, not the mudbath that is being drawn.

rock@roll Dems scream louder about this cause its the only issue that counts. no sex or scandal in the democrates past? p.s. you guys should really listen to Kieth Oderman more...all politicos stink

Sounds like a plan. The Republicans deserved to lose the house BEFORE this scandal. Let them fry.

funny how the lack of a comparison to what Barney Franks did has not been raised by the media. Could they be just a little biased?

QUOTE
Pay no heed to the distinction between the e-mails and IMs. There's no evidence (yet) that any Republican leaders knew about Foley's cybersex IMs.
UNQUOTE
So, who did know about the IM's? The Democrats? Who held on to them and then leaked them to ABC. If they knew about them and did not say anything, they basically put the page in harms way and are just as guilty as Foley. The Dem's may think they have their October surprise but I have a feeling the showed they hand a little to early and the drive-by-media will not be able to cover for them.

[B]WHO CARES?[/B]

One guy blew it...not the entire party.

Everyone knows who really stands for morals and traditional values...and it's not ANY kind of politician.

For darn sure it's not these old "free love", spit-on-a-soldier, embrace-traitors-and-terrorists (while we slaughter half-formed babies and gripe about how "everyone is a victim" idiots that the Democrats parade before us today. Their tactics are nothing more than vomiting up whatever negative thing they can about anyone (see Joe Leiberman and, of course, GWB) except their brainwashed minions (see terroist training). These out of touch whackos, who are so mean and bitter now that they finally realize their socialist uptopia is not EVER going to exist,
will do anything, and say anything, to get back their power.

Uh no.......they went to far left! They went over the edge.....

.....and everyone knows it.

One rotten apple does not spoil the barrel. Hang the pervert by his toenails, send him to Abu-overhyped Graib....

With the Demodumbos and the ACLU fighting for the rights of NAMBLA they can say anything they want, because REAL people know they are hypocrites.

RIGHT ON!!

GOP is reaping what it has sown and definitely what it deserves.

This is rich. The party that openly defended Barney Frank's involvement in the illegal male prostitution ring (rumored to have involved underage boys) run from his home (in which he claimed ignorance, even while fixing the parking tickets of a number of the johns), and the alchohol intoxication and statutory rape of a 17 year old male page by Senator Gerry Studs, claiming to defend children. Hell, many of us are still waiting to find out what REALLY happened to Chandra Levy!

The memo shown in this article demonstrates a complete lack of anything resembling integrity. In any other situation, I believe that it would be damning proof of deliberate, malicious and ACTIONABLE slander. Were it not for Sovereign immunity granted members of the House and Senate, I feel that the Democratic leadership would be facing civil lawsuits that they could not possibly defend.

The fact that Nancy Pelosi may have had this information for even longer that the Republican leadership and withheld it from law enforcement until such time that she could use it to political advantage SHOULD be investigated as a deliberate case of Child Endangerment and Obstruction of Justice. I fully endorse a COMPLETE investigation of ALL players in this disgrace, not just the selective demands of a self-serving minority so desperate for power that they will stoop to any atrocity to win.

In every case listed above, the offending Democrats are still in office. At least Foley had the decency to resign. I have yet to see ANY democrat with even a hint of that kind of basic decency.

Compare and contrast how the Dems have dealt with similar and more serious crimes among their own: They lie, deny and stonewall, and then blame the victim. Foley resigned immediately, and the Republicans have already called for an investigation. No bashing of the victims, either, except by the Dems, who went directly against the wishes of the parents of the young men in question.
Remind the voters of the dialogue arond Clinton's more than flirtation with a 19 year old, by repeating their mantras: "It's just sex." and "Everybody does it." That one covered both the sex and the lying.

Hastert--the highest-ranking Tom Delay protege in public office today--should probably listen to the Washington Times and submit his resignation.

Like all too many Republicans and some Democrats, Speaker Hastert, Majority Leader Boehner, and Page Board Chairman Shimkus simply don't identify with the problems of society's victims. This lack of concern led them to do nothing despite having knowledge of the incriminating emails with plenty of unfortunately unused time to take decisive action.

The next leaders of Congress should be people who care about society's victims as well as society's winners, whether the victims by victims of sexual harassment, crime, workplace injury, stock fraud, unfair labor practices, or ill-informed military policies.

Disgusting how the Dems and their willing cohorts in the media are spinning this. The best thing is to let this die. No investigation either because the media can't be fair. No distinction between the bland emails and the sick IMs, eh? How about a distinction between this and the coverage of Condit. They tried to block any mention of that one and even when they did they called him the "Conservative Congressman" instead of "Democrat."

Well, there are certain things you expect from Republicans like moral outrage, and then there are things you don't expect from the Democrats - like moral outrage.

To hear the Democrats scream is too funny to bear!

I think there is more than enough perverts and crroks on both sides to keep us busy for many months now. Lets talk about Teddy Kennedy the drunken groper or Barney Frank..maybe we can chat about 'ol Bill Jefferson and the 90K in his freezer?? etc etc. I find it curious the story leaks before an election...kind of like a Woodward book!!! Here's a bunch of democrats who could care less about kids being slaughtered every year (abortions) but suddenly care about one kid that gets a lewd email? I'm not buying it, any more than I buy "Islam is a religion of peace" or a 700 mile fence is going to do one thing to stop an invasion.

And don't mention once, not once, that Foley is a homosexual and pro-choice. People might think he's actually a Democrat.

sounds about right. Sounds effective, too.

This is hilarious. The party of a president who is documented to have raped more than a dozen teenagers (See "No One Left to Lie To by Christopher Hitchens), who had drug and alcohol sex parties in his borther's apartment while governor of Arkansas, and whose Attorney General was widely known to be a child molester who got teenage girls drunk and then molested them in her car, all the while persecuting a Florida policeman whose wife ran a daycare center and who she KNEW was innocent of any charges of molestation which her employees invented against him and she let him sit in prison for YEARS knowing full well he was innocent - this party, the party of Gary Studds and dozens of other "Congressmen" who molested pages (not just sent emails to them, but had sexual relations with them) and did precisely NOTHING about it, this party is going to talk about sexual ethics? THAT is funny.

Considering that over 98% of homosexuals are Democrats, and over 90% of child molesters are homosexuals, it's obvious where the real problem is. And then there's the billions of dollars from Communist China which every single nationally known Democrat took during the 1990s, and not one penny of which has been recovered, while trillions of American defense technology went to China. When finally the press mentioned a $13 million dollar amount given to the DNC, they left out the missile and nuclear weapon technology it bought, and then they allowed without comment the Democrats to give the Chinese a refund of the money!

The fact of the matter is, leftist of any party are bad. But the Democratic party is in and of itself organized crime, and anyone who looks at them knows that, including their prostitute media.

Isn't it great, and there's nothing the Republicans can really do, FINALLY

Idiots...... It's the ONLY way you can win anything it to put republicans down. You CERTAINLY can't win anything based solely on your ideas.

You NEVER come up with anything new, you just say what we're doing wrong.

I repeat.

I-D-I-O-T-S.

How cynical and calculating. Do any of you folks care about the decaying fabric of our American family?

The Democrats should be ashamed of themselves for blatantly trying to exploit this sensitive and private situation. The Republicans never exploited Bill Clinton's private affairs (with an adult FEMALE); we took the high-road and let President Clinton tend to his own issues in private.

The DEMOCRATIC Party doesn't have to do anything but continue to LEAD America with a vision of progressive values that this nation was built on.

Let the members of the gop collapse upon themselves...they shall reap what they've sewn.

Every once in a while, wily politicians and cynical partisans glaze over their common sense and just "don't get it." You're not going to gain any ground pointing out that the Democrats will use the horrendous Foley episode to bash Republicans. Of course, they will--and should.

The founders called it "checks and balances"; we might call it "what were you thinking?" Only the Washington Times (in a true "conservative" stand) seems to "get it", having called for Haskert's resignation.

Here it is, with no spin and the way every decent person in America of any political persuasion will see it: you don't play politics with sexual predators of children, pretending you thought it might not be so bad, and if your leaders do, show your own worth by being the FIRST to throw the stones, because in matters like this, you had BETTER be without sin. This is beyond the pale, and nothing will spin it clean.

Don't the dems just copy this plan for every event they wish to turn into a "Scandal?"
It sure looks like a typical politicial response.
Just fill in the names of the target each time and fire away.

By the way, in the midst of all this fingering pointing, remember 3 things.
1. Foley broke no laws.
2. He resigned, taking the honorable way out.
3. He is still liable for his actions.
No free pass.

We were not subjected to weeks of denials and press releases as is usual.

Finally, consider this dem strategy memo;
it is all about gaining a political advantage only.
Where is some some sincere concern for the people involved and solving any relevant problems?

I'm not being mean, I just don't understand how the Democrats can gloat - they have plenty of scandal in their own ranks. Look at the situation with Ted Kenney - come on now, he got away with it. Then we have President Kennedy, President Clinton.....why, why, do they seem to be able to cover things up. It's beyond me.

Independent Voter but wondering??????

Democrates had been Swift boated by this administration for 6 years. Let's give the REPULBICANS a dose of medicine withe Truth AND no need for SWIFT BOATING....

Kick the BUMS OUT!

One man has a problem... his friends try and help him and the Dems have a meltdown..

Should we list all the sex scandals that has involved the LIBERAL members of Congress? Oh yah, it doesn't matter because everyone knows how immoral they really are. They should be applauding this act -- it's right up their alley...

The Republicans are being held to a higher standard than the Dems for obviously reasons.

They can whine all they want while the Republicans continue to work on the business of government.

There is just one word to respond to the Dems... Clinton

This will back fire! Don't the Dems understand THE American People will compare how they are reacting to this to how they reacted to Clinton, Monica and Clintons perjury and Obsruction of Justice. Not to mention it is becoming apparent CREW had these emails and YES the IM'S. The leader of CREW is connected to Sen C.Shumer (NY-D) and Rep J. Conyers (MI-D) What did they know and when did THEY know it??????

I guess the Democrats have all of a sudden become righteous.Remember they are the party thatstands behind the Judges that lets these bums walk.

Foley's homosexual behavior is standard for homosexuals. By attacking Foley, Democrats are unwittingly attacking homosexuality. Bad move on their part. If we 'witch hunt' for bad sexual behavior, guess who comes out looking bad?

Clinton gets a blow job in the oval office,trashes a
number of women who come forward with accusations and he gets applauded. Only in America.

I hope the Dems get into power and F.ck up the country completely. The media deserve them.

Is it too far-fetched to wonder if the Foley scandal is Rove's October surprise?

The media would be talking now about Woodward's bombshell book, the Torture, Detainment, & Pardon Law, Condi ignoring Tenet's warning and the cover-up, and all the other major stories that just hit the fan. Instead it's the relatively trivial Foley sex scandal, creepy as it is. Foley takes one for the team, maybe Hastert has to step down as Speaker, but it won't go much further.

I think Rove had this in his pocket and released it at the precise time he needed to to divert the always sex-scandal-hungry media.

I used to be registered Democratic and was active in the Democratic platform committees, but I am so sickened by the Democratic party and the way they have treated the American people, that I will now vote straight Republican regardless....They remind me of very spoiled brats who need to be sent to their room.

All Americans are discusted with Foley's activities. However, to date, I have not heard anything of actual contact between Foley and any Page. His e-mails and his IMs were enough for him to resign in discrace. For, me that is enough, unless it is later proven he violated the law, then he should be convicted in a court of law. But, so far, his activities have not risen to the level of Gary Studds, Barnie Frank, or Bill Clinton, all Democrates, and all committed actual sexual activity. Frank ran a male prostotution ring from his own house and is still a member of Congress. Studds had sex with male Pages, and for Clinton, the Democratic response was "its only sex".
It is clear the Republican Leadership seems to have known about the e-mails at least from the spring of 2006, but what did they know of the content? They apparently didn't know of the IMs, but apparently some Democrates did. Why didn't these Democrates say anything? Foley is only one man. His activities will only effect one race. When are the Democrates going to focus on real issues, like national security, terrorism, boarder control, social security, and taxes?

it's a shame they can't remember people jumping out of the towers or be this aggressive against terrorism.

Don't you think it is about time for Tom Delay "to reappear" along with Nute Gingrich and teach the weak kneeded GOP leaders how to play hardball----in the 11th hour?

But what about Clinton?

Sounds like a good plan to me. It appears to be a pretty accurate depiction of the Republicans.

... and the republican playbook should be a strong warning of what happens when democrats are in charge... they destroy our country's traditions and "Love of Country".

Dem governors and a dem president would appoint liberal judges that legislate from the bench and promote anc condone homosexual lifestyles.

Our country will be destroyed by these reprobates and the bible tells us it will certainly happen.

We as Christians are to fight the good fight though and not surrender to the hordes of evil-doers.

Edmund Burke said "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing."

What a surprise, the Dems. who HAD ALL OF THE INFORMATION for OVER A YEAR and DID NOTHING ABOUT IT EITHER, CHOOSE TO BRING IT UP A MONTH BEFORE NOVEMBER ELECTIONS! Let's see, Woodward's book and this. That is the ONLY way Dems will ever win elections because they are all NEGATIVE ALL THE TIME. I guess Ted Kennedy and Mary Jo Kopeckney's death pale in comparison to a sleaze ball sending emails AFTER someone has left staff.

Before the Democrats get on their 'moral high horse', the public needs to be reminded of
(1) Barney Frank fixing 19 parking tickets for the clients of his gay lover's house of prostitution.
(2) Bill Clinton's pardon of Mel Reynolds who was jailed for having sex with a 15 year old girl and was planning to have a threesome with a 14 year old.
(3) Jerry Studs who was caught having sex with a 17 year old page was given THREE standing ovations by his Democratic friends..

Are the Democrats incapable of ever saying or doing
anything positive? Does it have to be we aren't as bad as the other guys?

Don't you find it funny how the Democrats all of a sudden grow morality when it comes to a Republican scandal? Of course, any time a Democrat has been involved in a sex scancal they have rushed to their defense stating that Republicans should stay out of peoples bedrooms.

Don't get me wrong. I am by no means defending Foley. If he did what he is being accused of then he should not be in his position, period. Even though his behavior is unexcusable I truly find the timing impeccable. Now the Democrats want Hastert to resign over Foley's folley. Geez... as if Hastert had anything to do with it.

It is obvious that the Democrats sat on this until after the primary to take out Foley and put Republicans on the defense. If the Democrats were truly as concerned with the safety of the pages then they would have brought it to light when they found out. By withholding until now they show their true motives and what they really care about. Hint; It ain't kids safety, it's about getting back into power.

i want to know when nancy, harry, and howard knew about the foley issue and if they worked with abc news on the timing of the release of the info? i want the whole behind the the scenes political power revealed.

Foley was an easy target. There are easy Dem targets out there (Kennedy, Kennedy, Byrd, et al).

Is the RNC willing to pick up their weapon and pull the trigger?

We'll see soon.

Wow--the Democrats have an issue now. LOL

Oh yes. That will work well. Perhaps they should check into what the Democrats did regarding Mel Reynolds.......nothing.

Melvin Jay "Mel" Reynolds (born January 8, 1952) was a Democratic member of the United States House of Representatives from the state of Illinois. Reynolds currenty works for Jesse Jackson's Rainbow Coalition.

In August of 1994, he was indicted for having sex with a sixteen year old campaign volunteer yet was allowed to continue running for re-election. In November of 1994 he was reelected. Reynolds initially denied what he claimed were racially motivated charges. On August 22, 1995 he was convicted on 12 counts of sexual assault, obstruction of justice and solicitation of child pornography. He resigned his seat on October 1, 1995.

Reynolds was sentenced to five years in prison and expected to be released in 1998. However, in April of 1997, he was convicted on fifteen counts of bank fraud and lying to SEC investigators and as a result, was sentenced to an additional six and a half years in federal prison. After serving 42 months of his 78 month sentence, U.S. President Bill Clinton commuted his sentence and Reynolds served the balance in a half way house.

Dems will slime everyone with a broad brush. What's new? How they can get the race card involved will be their next move.

The Democrats are going after Foley because they have a deep unpoken haterid of homosexuals.

Seeking and havbing sex with heterosexuals, like Monica, does not bother them.

Democrats are all homophobes...

You nailed it. That's it 100% and it's started with even more momentum then expected with the Washington Times calling for Foley's resignation.

Being a Republican, a father, and A Cub Scout den leader, I find what Foley did totally repugnant. I think the best game plan for the Republican leadership to do would be throw this SOB under the train(figuatively of course). His behavior is what I would expect from a Democrat not a Republican. The funny thing is the only reason the Democrats are even on a rampage about this is it gives them one thing which actually matters to crow about. I truely doubt if they even care about the safety of the child.

mark foley can stop all media hype and democrat sniping by switching to the democratic party and he would stop all this and move right to the top of their party and fit right in with them

my question is,how long did the dems know about Foley and hold onto the info to drop it now, for political gain, the same reason the republicans may have held onto it, for political gain. Dems stick up for criminals' rights routinely. I can assure you these judges across America who free child molesters back into society with probation or less every day, and the ACLU attorneys who defend NAMBLA's "right to exist and organize" AREN'T REPUBLICANS.

Rep Foley was a closet democratic

I think the whole situation is a travesty. I am also am sick and tired of the Republicans AND Democrats constant bickering and trying to leverage every issue to their party's advantage. Whatever happened to just to the "RIGHT" thing for the American people instead of the endless arguing. For the most part both the Democrats AND Republicans are worthless hypocrites without character. If I had the ability, I would vote them all out of office and start fresh. These men and women of the House and Senate should be ashamed of themselves for their egregious behavior.

This from the people who gave Mass. Rep Gerry Studds three standing ovations in the House after he refused to resign his seat following censure for having sex with male pages?? Or who continue to fully support Mass. Rep Barney Franks after his reprimand and non-resignation for running an escort service out of his D.C. home?? (Oh, I forgot, it was a friend of his who actually ran it and he was unaware of what was happening!!) THESE PEOPLE ARE HYPOCRITICAL, DUPLICITOUS AND DISGUSTING!! Oh, and they are DEMOCRATS!!

I'll believe Democrat values when they dismiss Barney Franks from the House.

Its illuminating to contrast this incident to the earlier Congressional page scandal in 1983. In that particular incident, Democratic Rep. Gerry Studds did far more than just send lurid messages to a minor...he engaged in a long-term sexual relationship with an underage male page.

What happened when he was caught? Nothing at all. He refused to be censured by the House, and successfully ran for reelection for the next 13 years. No criminal charges were ever filed.

The "Foley: Democratic Playbook" is just sick. Same with any type of playbook by the Republicans. I am one of those "silent" million Americans who want ALL elected officials think about the welfare and security of the country instead of doing anything (wallowing in the gutter type things like this playbook) to get elected. Politicians are so about "self" it is repulsive to my family and I. STOP! STOP! STOP!

CFSavoy

Didn't Democrat Gerry Studds screw around (literally) with a page while he was in congress? Yes!

Didn't Studds get standing ovations by his fellow dems in Congress? Yes!

Was he forced to resign? NO!

Is there a double standard? YES!

Wasn't Rep Mel Reynolds convicted and didn't he serve time for screwing around with a 16 year old Catholic school girl? Didn't he say that he hit the Lotto for doing so? Wasn't his sentence commuted by a guy screwing around (literally) with an intern. Doesn't he now work for Jesse Jackson who fathered out of wedlock. Mel Reynolds is now a "Youth Advisor" for Jackson!

Give me a break. This from the same people who told us that actual sex with an intern depending upon what the meaning of "is" is, subsequent lying about it to the American people and under oath resulting in being disbarred is nothing to be concerned about? More dirty tricks from the Democrats akin to holding onto the Bush drunk driving charge until the weekend before the election. Didn't work then, won't work now but it's all they have to run on.

So, what's your point. The fact is this was a GOP congressman who did this, not a Democrat. Secondly the Republican leadership knew at least some of this and did nothing about it. It took ABC less than 48 hours to get the further facts. The Republican leadership did not want the scandal so ignored it.

Wow, it's amazing to see so many right-wing nuts here. I'm surprised. I thought Hotline was fairly non-partisan. These are the absolute droolers around here.

Democrats are such hypocrites when it comes to engaging in the politics of personal destruction which they claim they loathe. But this latest cynical move by Democrats to throw all nuance to the wind and use Rep. Foley's indefensible behavior - sending, at best, sexually ambiguous emails and the more homo-erotic IMs - as a means to a political end to tar and feather the whole Republican leadership is far more disturbing.

And given Leader Hastert's request to the FBI to investigate who held onto those IMs, thus putting more pages at risk (isn't this the latest lament of the Democrats?), I wouldn't be surprised if we find liberal journalists and more than one Democratic operative who have coordinated this October surprise to maximize its effect.

It's being rumored that there are more page/Congressman scandals to be revealed and what do you bet they will all involve Republicans? If this is the case, there there is little question there is a conspiracy afoot in the Democratic party to use not only Congressmen with clay feet but also adolescent pages for their own political blame game.

And we know given the Democrats own sexual scandals with minors in the past (Mel Reynolds, Gerry Studds are just a few examples), that there should be a commensurate number of Democrats involved in such disgusting picadillos if this investigation is fair.

I say sweep out all these disgusting perverts, both Republicans and Democrats and get some real people of principle in office. That being said, there is a certain irony that it is a pervert homosexual who has brought such grief to the Republican party. I'm sure if the roles were reversed and the Republicans were trying to lambast a Democrat homosexual while painting the whole Democratic Party as corrupt for not breaking the story sooner, we'd be treated to the Democrat's charges of homophobia blah, blah, blah. And I doubt as a Democrat Mr. Foley would be inclined to voluntarily resign since Democrats rarely do so, preferring to delay and bluster, much like Representative William Jefferson (D-LA) did recently despite being caught red-handed with a $100,000 bribe.

I am not surprised by this. Desperate dems are always reaching. They are always looking for an opportunity to "FULLY INVESTIGATE" which costs the taxpayers millions. And they don't do it for the "welfare of their pages" or any other children. They do it bag seats. So why should this Foley case be any different? Foley is a creep. It's true! If these allegations are real, then he needs to be punished to the fullest extent of the law. Any democrat or republican should see that and quit making it a political PARTY issue. The dems are always screaming about the right and their tendency to politicize non-partisan related issues. I realize a Republican is the one under fire, here. But until I see hard proof that there was a definite attempt to cover this up on the part of Republican leaders, it remains an isolated case .

This is politics one 0 one. Am sure [ newspapers & media ] knew this a long time ago & waited for just before election. Condem the whole party for one man. It will backfire on them. They have no answers for the world answers so blow a smokescreen.

It is laughable to think that this will work. Here's why: 1) For the DEMS to suddenly jump on this bandwagon will highlight their desperation to find any other "real" issue that will stick. 2) It will become evident, and will be replayed by REPUB leadership that they called for Foley's immediate resignation, and would have thrust him out, rather than defend his actions as did DEMS with Clinton (another aide, remember?) 3) It will resurrect the Clinton scandal, and that is one that Americans remember - clearly. 4) It will allow REPUBs to point out that DEMS were just hunting for a way to avoid the real issues. No poll shows "values" as a real issue. 5) You have to just KNOW that REPUBS have documents, and that the blogosphere will produce documents, showing that far more DEMS in congress have actually been "flirting" with pages than REPUBS. This could actually become a trap for DEMS. Look particularly at middle DEM leadership and at a couple of black DEMs, and at least one gay DEM. This approach could backfire seriously.

The best way for DEMS to use this is to hit it hard, be brief and then point out that they want to return to the real issues and let the REPUBS handle this internally. If DEMS try to use this as a shield it will all come down around their ears.

Walt

It's nice to see the Dems using this to their advantage, since they have no real solutions of their own. Everything is so calculated, ues Patty Wetterling as a spokswoman because her son was kidnaped. Give me a break. Real question is how did the ABC new reporter find this out and how long did the DEM know about this as well

The Democraps are the party of homosexual rights and support for the ACLU defense of man-boy groups.

It's really unforunate that the democrats have to resort to what republicans and the Rove squad have been doing since 1999.

Pretty funny reading. You repubs sound very panicked. Feel the carpet slipping out from under your feet?

You all better get used to minority status (again).

What's Worse...

The person who did something irrisponsible and perverted or the party (Democrats) who new about it several months ago but instead of reporting it and trying to protect the kid, waited until election time to report it so that they could use it to make political hay?

The DNC is full of political hacks and hipocrits.

These Democrats are really sick. So how can we complain about Foley?

it amazes me to see a major political party, with no ideas, just negativity, with some of the most far left liberals in charge, feel like the only way to win in november is to slime people across the board. reminds me of the sleazy period of history called the clinton years. if america is stupid enough to elect people with their only ideas being give in to terrorists, tax people out of existence, use the clinton slime machine and try to impeach a president who has tried his best to protect this country....then we will be getting exactly what we deserve. i'm afraid its not going to be a pretty picture.

These talking points are great, but not exactly necessary. The GOP's failures on this mess are SO
large the MSM will be covering this night and day
so the Democrats don't have to push the envelope
very much to get traction from this.

GOP= Greedy Old Pedophiles

Trash... This is simply trash. The DEMS have their own history of covering up congressional page scandels.

When will the Democrats cease doing whatever it takes just to gain power? It seems that they care not a whit for the good of the country. I'm sure they rationalize their actions as doing whatever it takes to get elected "because the country would, of course, be better off if they were in power." Just for the record, Republicans aren't much better, either. It's all about power, power, power, and the privileges that go along with that power, not about what's good for the country. Where are the men and women of principal?

Wow, the Dems will stoop so low. Do they forget Gerrry Studds, the Democrat congressman who had an affair with a male underage page and refused to resign back in 1983, saying it was a private issue? Nancy Pelosi didn't have a problem with him sitting with her in the Democrat caucus.

Patty Wetterling willing to use the kidnapping of her own son to score political points. Talk about stooping to a new low.

Democrats and the media unapologetically use moral eqivalency and selective reporting to protect themselves, but unapologetically use moral eqivalency and selective reporting to attack Republicans. Who then is morally bankrupt?

DISGUSTING!

Dems want to politicize everything and anything to try to gain power.

What a shame.

Do I read into these talking points the idea that the Dems are actually going to support the idea of kicking gay scoutmasters out of the Boy Scouts? While they are in such a punitive mood, maybe they will also will rethink their former decisions and censure Barney Frank, impeach Clinton, and kick out old "cold-cash" Jefferson from his seat.
I won't hold my breath; hypocrisy and treachery run so deep in the democrat heart it would be sheer insanity to think they could experience instant conversion to righteousness.

+you can look at foley's silly face and smile and peg him from the get-go. those weirdos have the same type of looks and smiles.

WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!

The Republicans better tie Foley to the homosexual adgenda and let him pull the homosexual adgenda down with him. It is not time to compare Clinton to Foley (which you definately could) but that would accomplish nothing.

I'm a conservative registered republican...is anyone else out there totally disgusted with this being made a political issue? "My side vs their side???" If this guy is guilty, it should have been both sides that brought this out into the open and quite frankly beat the S@*T out of him in the media and possibly for real...the dems are just as guilty of politicizing this...Its not just republicans that have a problem with ethical behavior...Its all of them!!! we must start holding these dirty POLITITIANS responsible and DEMAND a level of integrity from them befitting STATESMEN!!!

As an American Citizen

I would like to hear and understand more on our Governments Domestic Agenda, from our own current and future political leaders. I do not need to hear how any Sex Scandal effects Congress, or how the War on Terrorism effects Iraq. I want to hear more on what effects me, and the people in my life, on the American Soil I call Home.

1.) How is the War on Crime going? With our own in-house terrorism rising – Gang Violence – what is the plan of attack their? How many die to our own terrorism?
2.) Will we ever win the War on Drugs? Can we ever put the money and resources that go into protecting and raising a new country, into protecting our own?
3.) Why is it that no political party, can get anything done over there years of service; except to always give themselves a raise in their salary? What are they afraid of? Who actual owns and leads our country?
i. No Immigration Reform
ii. No Border Security
iii. No Gun-Control Reform
iv. No Medicare or Medicaid Reform
v. No Social Security Reform
vi. No Property Insurance Reform
vii. No Health Care Reform
viii. No Crime Bill Reform
ix. No Education Reform
x. Nothing
4.) Will the America Citizens, ever hear the phrase “Mission Accomplished” on any domestic political issue?
5.) In the end, where is God, a founding member of this nation in all of this?


Signed
George P. Wansor
4752 Big Draw Dr.
North Las Vegas, NV. 89031-3335

This thread sure got hijacked by some crazed Republicans. The three categories their responses fall into are all sad: homophobic rants (newsflash: thinking all gay people are predators like Foley means you're a homophobe), "Dems did it too" (as if that presumably makes it all OK), or baseless conspiracy theories that the Dems set this all up.

I'm surprised that Hotline let some of these comments go through, like the duplicative or obscene and offensive ones. Comments here are not posted until screened and approved, though I don't know that they have an explicit policy on what's allowable and what's not.

Terri Schiavo?
No need to bring that up. That was the beginning of the Republicans' troubles.

"I think there is more than enough perverts and crroks on both sides to keep us busy for many months now."

That's one thing we can all agree on, I think. Rather than allowing ourselves to be divided about it, I hope we can all pull together and get Washington cleaned up. The mess is costing us constantly, and hurting us in the world.

Foley may be part of the republican party but to take his crime and connect it with the party as a whole wont stick. The crime he committed was so evil that most voter wont correlate this with the party or even congress. And since the victims are children playing this out in during election season could have blow back for the dems.

If I elected you to run policy, not dig for dirt and I find that you're digging dirt, you will be replaced by someone who wants to run policy. Simply put, Democrats are dirt diggers and Republicans are policy makers. Get it? My vote goes to the man who stands for something, not the one who stands for everything.

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