NO NO NO NO NO NO NO.

How do you even make a mistake like that?

I got a strong feeling its from Clintons wins. Esp. from Ohio, gonna be hard for him, he is not closing the deal. I believe its gonna hurt him in the long run.

I got a strong feeling its from Clintons wins. Esp. from Ohio, gonna be hard for him, he is not closing the deal. I believe its gonna hurt him in the long run.

Obama might have had 50 SDs lined up based on the contingent he won Texas or Ohio. Now there won't be that kind of movement until after Pennsylvania.

i feel... pain.

The press is fretting over keeping this going but the longer you keep the focus on the Democrats the less we have to hear of the surrogate "Bob Dole" (John McCain). Besides, it's great to have two viable candidates instead of the usual boring/beatable one.

The press is fretting over keeping this going but the longer you keep the focus on the Democrats the less we have to hear of the surrogate "Bob Dole" (John McCain). Besides, it's great to have two viable candidates instead of the usual boring/beatable one.

It felt like a mistake, to me.

The Obama camp has made two obvious
mistakes so far. The first was talking
to the Canadian consulate about NAFTA
right before the OH primary. It didn't
matter what was said. Nothing should
have been said. The fact that the meeting
went ahead is a sign of poor judgement.

The second mistake was this: bragging
about Supers to Brokaw. If it's false,
then the Obama people look dumb. If it's
true, then it diminishes the impact of
an announcement, which is a dumb move.

Two lapses in discipline that the Obama
camp can't afford.

I may be wrong but this Canadian thing has been reported, as so often the case, with no context. Did you know that the meeting was on Feb.4.? Obama hadn't even started focusing on Ohio yet.With only 2 out of 40 minutes about nafta and the memo referred to was written not by Obama's rep but by a rep of a right leaning Canadian goverment. Obama's rep disputes the memo's accuracy. There is crappy info out there and worse people choose to base there beliefs on it. I wish us luck!

Did anyone else find it interesting that the supposed memo that came out of the Canadian Government came out after Bill Clinton had been in Canada 'visiting' Belinda Stronach? The Canadian PM he is stated to have had an affair with last year? Apparently it's been in the Canadian papers, but has been blocked from newspapers here...another interesting point!

Nancy: First off, Belinda Stronach is an MP (Member of Parliament), not a PM (Prime Minister). Secondly, she's recovering from breast cancer she had last year. Third, she was having an affair with a hockey player for the previous couple of years. Fourth, Stronach is a Liberal MP, who are in opposition, so it is exceptionally unlikely she would be privy to such info. In fact, the word in Canada is that the Prime Minister's Chief of Staff was the source of the leak. The government party in Canada is far closer to Republican than Democrat in nature. Finally, I've NEVER read in any Canadian paper that Stronach and Clinton had an affair at any time, so it's either a figment of your imagination or "blocked from newspapers" in Canada too.

I don't think the mistake was talking to the Canadians - why should the Obama campaign have expected that the Canadian government was going to distort what Goolsbee said and then release it to the press in order to stick a shiv in Obama?

They did make a lot of mistakes in responding to it, though.

The Toronto Globe and Mail is reporting, following on a Canadian Press story, that Harper's CoS, Ian Brodie, was in fact the source of the story, and that "someone from (Hillary) Clinton's campaign is telling the embassy to take it with a grain of salt. . . That someone called us and told us not to worry."

The "it" is the NAFTA rhetoric. The germ was a Clinton/Canada conversation, not Obama/Canada.

Yeah someone from Hillary's campaign, always that mysterious someone from the Clinton campaign. This stuff gets old real fast. Trying to blame everything Obama does on Clinton is just stupid. Obama's people should not be having meetings with anyone at the consulate, period. Obama has not yet won the nomination, let alone the election so its just too presumptuous in the extreme. As Bill Clinton always says, focus on the election in front of you or you may not get to the one after this one.

Yeah, it's wrong. It's not 50.

It's 60.

Newsflash...Obama most likely DID win Texas with the Caucses included

OBAMA GOT CAUGHT! DON'T WHINE ISN'T THAT WHAT YOU
TOLD PRESIDENT HILLARY IN LAST DEBATE.

OBAMA GOT CAUGHT! DON'T WHINE ISN'T THAT WHAT YOU
TOLD PRESIDENT HILLARY IN LAST DEBATE.

If your not supporting Obama, then you're an idiot. A woman who rides on her husbands experience is a mistake to this presidential campaign. Screw the 50--lets just use Wyoming tonight as an example: he won 7 delegates, but there 9 immediately in his favor, meaning, 2 superdelegates IMMEDIATELY came out and said we want Obama. The biatch may be winning the big states--but shes a bloody fool to have not won the smaller ones which add up to more than the large ones!!

Minda:

Nobody's "blaming" Clinton. It's a fact. It was a Clinton aide who spoke to Canada, and the story was not reported correctly. MSNBC reported it as well.

The entire thing was planted by a Clinton aide, and then Clinton lied to Texas and Ohio.

WAKE UP.

Keep in mind here that there are more players in this story than just Clinton and Obama.

Both campaigns contacted the Canadian government to explain their positions to explain what "use the threat of withdrawal to force a renegotiation" would mean in practical terms. A reasonable thing to do for two people attending to the diplomatic aspects of their internal politics.

Now keep in mind what was leaked was not a transcript of the conversation between Obama and the government. What was leaked was not a transcript of the "back-channel assurances" by the Clinton campaign. What was leaked were potentially skewed and misleading memos and statements by various Conadian officials who may have motives of their own.

Just keep that complexity in mind when we're rushing to judgement here.

full disclosure: I support Obama