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DNC Chair Howard Dean released a statement tonight about the FL and MI quandary, advising that the states have two options, per the committee's bylaws, to attempt to seat their delegates. Meanwhile, FL Dem Party Chairwoman Karen L. Thurman also weighed in this afternoon in a statement released to the media. Thurman said that the state party is working with the candidates and national officials to try to reach a workable solution. She cautions that primaries and caucuses must be completed, per DNC rules, by June 10. That's the good news, we're guessing, and, well, the bad news. Primaries, even and perhaps especially via mail, cost big bucks, and the national party is having money problems.

Maybe PA should just be the sudden death state. Because this other mayhem is bound to get messy ...

First, Dean; Thurman is after the jump.

Dean: "We're glad to hear that the Governors of Michigan and Florida are willing to lend their weight to help resolve this issue. As we've said all along, we strongly encourage the Michigan and Florida state parties to follow the rules, so today's public overtures are good news. The rules, which were agreed to by the full DNC including representatives from Florida and Michigan over 18 months ago, allow for two options. First, either state can choose to resubmit a plan and run a party process to select delegates to the convention; second, they can wait until this summer and appeal to the Convention Credentials Committee, which determines and resolves any outstanding questions about the seating of delegates. We look forward to receiving their proposals should they decide to submit new delegate selection plans and will review those plans at that time. The Democratic Nominee will be determined in accordance with party rules, and out of respect for the presidential campaigns and the states that did not violate party rules, we are not going to change the rules in the middle of the game.

"Through all the speculation, we should also remember the overwhelming enthusiasm and turnout that we have already seen, and respect the voters of the ten states who have yet to have their say.

"As we head towards November, our nominee must have the united support of a strong Democratic Party that's ready to fight and ready to beat John McCain. After seven years of Republican rule, I am confident that we will elect a Democratic president who will fight for America's families in the White House. Now we must hear from the voters in twelve states and territories who have yet to make their voices heard."

Florida Democratic Party Chairwoman Karen L. Thurman issued the following statement today on the state of the Democratic nominating process as it relates to Florida:

"The Democratic primary gets more exciting by the day. The incredible enthusiasm for these two phenomenal candidates for President continues to prove that America wants a new direction - not a third Bush term with McCain.

"We thank Governors Crist and Granholm for supporting the effort to have the votes of more than five million Democrats and Republicans from Florida and Michigan recognized. In Florida, more than 1.75 million Democrats voted, and they deserve to be heard.

"Obviously, these primaries are the talk of the political world, and some are even suggesting that Florida hold a run-off election between the top two Democratic primary vote-getters, which happen to be Senators Clinton and Obama. However, this is not a time to panic or jump to any conclusions simply because the Republicans have a nominee.

"It is important to remember that the Democratic nominating process does not end until June 10. The Florida Democratic Party continues to work with our leadership, Sen. Clinton, Sen. Obama and the Democratic National Committee to ensure this state is fully represented at the National Convention.

"We have discussed many things, ranging from the plans for the general election to a potential alternative primary to the process for appealing to the credentials committee of the National Convention to seat our delegates as currently allocated.

"It is important also that we are clear about one issue. At this time, no suggested alternative process has been able to meet three specific and necessary requirements: the full participation from both candidates, a guaranteed commitment of the millions of dollars it will cost to conduct the event and a detailed election plan that would enfranchise all Florida Democrats, including our military service members serving in Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere.

"The Florida Democratic Party cannot consider any alternative that does not meet these requirements. Indeed, it is very possible that no satisfactory alternative plan will emerge, in which case Florida Democrats will remain committed to seating the delegates allocated by the January 29th primary.

"We continue to move ahead with preparations for an unprecedented coordinated general election campaign. The people of Florida, like most Americans, are eager for change - not more of the same from McCain - and in November, we will make the Democratic nominee the next President of the United States of America."

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Dean also said he'd like a do-over of that speech he gave in Iowa

Dean also said he'd like a do-over of that speech he gave in Iowa

It's interesting that many Clintonistas are echoing the voices of the Republicans in Florida back in 2000. Remember Baker repeatedly going on and on about how the votes had already been counted and it was wrong, simply wrong, to count them again. "What I am saying here is that Florida has voted twice; Governor Bush won the first vote. We have had a transparent and fair and orderly machine recount, and he has won that." And when the Dems would respond that not all voters' ballots had been counted because those with hanging chads had been rejected by the machines, he came back to the argument that the dems were actually trying to engineer a third vote since they lost the first two. And now the Clintonistas argue that the first vote, in which party rules precluded Obama from campaigning, has to count and that it would be wrong to have a new vote where Obama could freely campaign and voters could actually make informed decisions based on something other than commercials and media reports. Shame on you Clintonistas for attempting to rob Florida democrats of their vote using tactics taken from the Republican playbook. Shame on you.

1. The State of Florida is Soverign and picks up the tap for the primary therefore, it has the right to set it's election dates for when ever it pleases. The DNC's position is simply poorly reasoned arrogance.

2.Dean is a dumb a$$. By refusing to allow dems to compete in Florida, he gave the stage to Republicans for three weeks in a very swing state. We're going to pay a very high price for his napolionic complex. Short men are more trouble then there worth. Their insecurities are too problematic.

3. I believe it will be Kool aid drinkers making the Bush 2000 arguments, ie: who cares who won the popular vote, it's about the delegates.

Thurman's arrogance is shocking. She wants to torpedo the primaries because her state party broke the rules (and lost in court)--and still she expects *Dean* to suggest an "alternative process" that meets criteria she set...it's so maddening.
The most bizarre thing to me is that FL and MI could have had the influence they'd wanted over the nominating process IF THEY HAD FOLLOWED THE RULES. Agh. If I were Dean I'd be *very* tempted to issue a take-it-or-leave-it proposal now. They've already had their day in court.