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Clinton Campaign Statement

Harold Ickes and Tina Flournoy made the following statement this evening:

Today’s results are a victory for the people of Florida who will have a voice in selecting our Party’s nominee and will see its delegates seated at our party’s convention. The decision by the Rules and Bylaws Committee honors the votes that were cast by the people of Florida and allocates the delegates accordingly.

We strongly object to the Committee’s decision to undercut its own rules in seating Michigan’s delegates without reflecting the votes of the people of Michigan.

The Committee awarded to Senator Obama not only the delegates won by Uncommitted, but four of the delegates won by Senator Clinton. This decision violates the bedrock principles of our democracy and our Party.

We reserve the right to challenge this decision before the Credentials Committee and appeal for a fair allocation of Michigan’s delegates that actually reflect the votes as they were cast.

45 Comments

Take it to the convention! Anything to keep this empty suit from being our nominee!
Go Hillary!

Yeah! Go Hillary! You've blown your campaign and "inevitable" victory from the beginning. I can only imagine what a crap-storm you'd have made of this nation if Obama hadn't come along and shown you what real organization and passion is about. Thanks goodness we won't have to be worrying about another term of Clintonian self-indulgence. Yay!

There was really no way to divide the Michigan delegates that would be completely fair to the Clinton campaign, the Obama campaign, the voters, and the DNC (Florida was a slightly different case). I think the RBC made the best of a bad situation all around. Hopefully now Clinton won't take her pointless fight all the way to the convention over just four delegates who, let's face it, will not snag her the nomination anyway. I'm hoping the Clinton campaign will show some class for the rest of the summer and not keep damaging the party.

MARK MY WORDS...!
Our economy is really going to to be on the dung pile, if Senator Obama wins? He directly told the general public that he becomes president, he will sign into law a new AMNESTY. Although none of the Presidential contenders can be really trusted, Obama will be true to his word. That means if Democrats don't get to gut the border fence, as they are right now? The raw truth is it will not matter? As taxpayers will be forced by federal law to support the 15 to 38 million illegal immigrants already here. That means big business has won and they just collect the profits.

While the man or women in the street will have a giant financial yoke around their neck, to pay billions in even more welfare programs. Senator Obama will have condemned America to a bleak future, for not only subsidizing millions of poor, non-English speaking, uneducated foreign nationals. Our government skims quietly of your wage packet 356 billion dollars, to support illegal low income workers annually and appease big business and that cost will become a pittance.

The compounding effect is millions of more itinerant labor and families, will breach the border and no patrol, or army will be able to stop the momentum. Thats why we must stop OBAMA with the Federal SAVE ACT (H.R.4088) Tell your Democratic representative to sponsor it now. January 2009 will be far too late!

"... four of the delegates won by Senator Clinton..."

Nonsense. Nobody won any delegates in the primary, which violated DNC rules. The difference of four delegates (eminently justified) will be irrelevant to the outcome after Tuesday. Ickes is just a sore loser.

Eatrh to Hillary and her supporters: Obama has locked up this nomination fairly and squarely so get over it already!
Hillary owes the public an apology for the disgusting behavior of her supporters. They acted like a bunch of thugs and hooligans. Harold Ickes' threat makes him no better than a bomb throwing anarchist.

Earth to Hillary and her supporters: Obama has locked up this nomination fairly and squarely so get over it already!
Hillary owes the public an apology for the disgusting behavior of her supporters. They acted like a bunch of thugs and hooligans. Harold Ickes' threat makes him no better than a bomb throwing anarchist.

I'm a fervent Obama supporter, and although I despise Harold Ickes, I think he's at least a little bit better than a bomb throwing anarchist.

I resent Hillary's attempting to trump the selection process as determined by the people. If Hillary succeeds in overruling the primaries and cauuses, this lifelone Democrat will leave the party forever. I would hope that Ombama would walk out of the convention and run as an independent.

I resent Hillary's attempting to trump the selection process as determined by the people. If Hillary succeeds in overruling the primaries and cauuses, this lifelone Democrat will leave the party forever. I would hope that Ombama would walk out of the convention and run as an independent.

The results and response from the Clinton campaign were foreseeable. Unless the committee handed the election to her in a beautiful gift basket, she would take issue with at least part of the decision. There is a sense of entitlement coming from her campaign. Not because she is white or she is a woman, as many of her supporters would like us to think. Its because she is a Clinton and over a year ago, she was touted as the front runner. I was leery of Obama at first, feeling that he should wait, but I have been won over by his campaign and his outlook for the future. Today's coverage allowed the American public to see a true difference in the campaigns. Clinton's surrogates and supporters showed an immaturity and notion that she was the choice of the people. Its just not true. The flip side showed well educated, well founded arguments that were supported by the rules and charter of the democratic party. I was driven to anger this evening when I heard Victor Demaio continue to claim that this decision was an example of discrimination. Any tactic to win is the Clinton way and unfortunately, I see no end to it. Its time for the people to stand up and demand that this be over. I would plead with those democratic voters in Puerto Rico, Montana and South Dakota as well as the uncommitted super delegates to end this by Tuesday so that the party can move forward and past the old politics of the Clinton and Bush years.

Chuck and to all like minded "democrats", if you believe in democratic principles, then you must stand for them. Clinton and Obama are fine both fine candidates, unfortunately only one can win the nomination. I personally believe that Obama is better for the country, but if given a choice between Clinton, McCain, or any independent in the race, I would choose Clinton.

Too many people today are looking at politics just as they look at sports. "I am for team Clinton/Obama, etc..." This is foolish. You are a democrat and should stand behind the best candidate. This uneducated immature attitude toward politics is more to blame for the state of our government than any one president, including the current inept man with the title. Republicans were guilty of this stand behind a man and not the party in 2004 when, with a poor approval rating and a country headed in the wrong direction, they still voted him in rather than pushing for a challenger at the primary level. American politics have turned into a spectator sport where the people are content to lose their role as active and powerful participants in the process.

I've never joined a party, I'm a swing voter, who voted for for a democrate for the first time, and I joined the Democrate party in support of Hillary Clinton. After seeing today's rules committee actually take delegates from Hillary and give them to the apposing candidate shocked me to my very core. It could have been done to McCain, Obama, whoever and I would have felt the same. I'm fully regretting my decision to actually join a party that could do this. Every word Harold Icky said could not have been better worded. To take a candidates delegates and acutally award them to someone else told me that your party is not for me and when will they do it to my state if this should ever happen again. I will be withdrawing from the Democrate Party. The Republican never messed with my vote and I'm secured it won't. This panel of rules, who repeatedly mouthed following the rule should have applied it the the greatest rule which is our Constitution. I was going to vote for either candidate if it was just a 50/50, until some of Clinton's earned delegates, by voters who voted for her, were given away. I'm 54, and in all my year's involved in politics, I have never witnessed anything like this. I cannot express deeply enough the damage that this has done to my support to any party. I should never have joined. The first time in my life I actually joined a party and look what they did. You may say that this comes from my disapointment because I supported Hillary Clinton, but you could not be more wrong. This is strickly due to those earned delegate given to a another. I will return my vote where I know it counts. I would rather live another four years with Republicans to prove a point that a persons vote is more important and the Constitution is stronger that a party's rules. I guess you can say in November my vote will count. What was done to Michigan, really was done to all other 48 states if things out of the voters control ever happens to them.

If Hillary goes to the convention and wins I might reconsider my vote since I will see that the voters count. Only if I am convinced. I will now go to the Democratic website and see how I can withdraw my membership. Veronica Pais, San Antonio, TX Independent again

I am 63 and hve been involved with politics for many years. Its amazing that anyone who has been involved understand politics has not noticed that Clinton has been spinning fact and issues like a top..and has been totally sociopathic about it. And by the way,its nice that an independent "actually joined a party" but it might be a good idea to learn what choosing a party's nominee requires..since each party has rules about how to go about it.

. And "what was done to Michigan"was what the MICHIGAN Democratic party asked the DNC to do to enable them to be represented after MICHIGAN violated the rules KNOWINGLY...and , it is one of 50 states. 48 abided by the rules. Hillary agreed that the Michigan primary would not count but changed her mind when she decided it was yet another thing she needed to have counted to advance her argument to OVERTHROW the Democratic process..that has given Obama an overwhelming lead in delegates, the way a nominee is selected.

If gas wasn't so expensive I would swear the Dems are throwing it on this fire. As soon as they can get someone else to buy them some gas, look for a huge blaze. Can you spell circular firing squad? Keep it up, we love it! Which NBC news anchor do you think Obama will pick as his running mate?

Wow talking about not being heard, I'll try again. 1/2 and 1/2 HAD to be the outcome. Clintonians talking about taking things to a higher authority, they should have been dragged out of the ballroom for such childish yelling and behavior. I sat all day and listened to the rules, the valid arguments and the relevant differences in the interpretation of DNC rules. And then about three hours in, people got up and played on emotion, blamed their LOCALLY ELECTED republican governor for why they broke the rules. It was a complete circus. Honestly I feel that florida should not have counted at all because they should have voted for a democratic GOVERNOR in "good faith" instead of waiting for a presidential primary to play the blame game. You want local politics to change? Where was the fire and excitement beforehand? Politics in Florida will never change permanently unless the "proud Floridians" take a little self responsibility and get the grassroots moving when there's not so much presidential politic action, lets call it being politically active instead of politically reactive.(funny how the latter has a divisive effect. Anyone else notice that the Obama supporters have been (for the most part) respectful today, yet the Clinton supporters are angry over the rules being inforced? I'm a 21 yr old college student, female, and haven't seen that much blatant disrespect since freshman year high school. WHERE HAVE ALL THE GROWN UPS GONE????

Harold Ickes' self-righteous indignation over a dilemma created by Gov. Granholm and the Michigan legislature was one of the most scandalous displays I have seen. How dare he lecture the DNC and the many well-meaning and sincere Democrats about the first amendment and democracy! A fundamental premise of democracy is the rule of law. What value does a vote really have in a lawless environment? For example, why should a vote that takes place two minutes after polls close not also count? Why should a voter not be allowed to vote twice? Because there are rules on voting, that's why. If they do not like the current rules, by all means change them through a legitimate process. Do not subvert the rules, place everyone in the invidious position of finding a suitable compromise, and then criticize the for not rubber-stamping the wrong doing. The jeers and rude behaviour of Sen. Clinton's supporters also did nothing to endear her increasing selfish cause to either Super Delegates or the nation in general.

Harold Ickes' self-righteous indignation over a dilemma created by Gov. Granholm and the Michigan legislature was one of the most scandalous displays I have seen. How dare he lecture the DNC and the many well-meaning and sincere Democrats about the first amendment and democracy! A fundamental premise of democracy is the rule of law. What value does a vote really have in a lawless environment? For example, why should a vote that takes place two minutes after polls close not also count? Why should a voter not be allowed to vote twice? Because there are rules on voting, that's why. If they do not like the current rules, by all means change them through a legitimate process. Do not subvert the rules, place everyone in the invidious position of finding a suitable compromise, and then criticize the for not rubber-stamping the wrong doing. The jeers and rude behaviour of Sen. Clinton's supporters also did nothing to endear her increasing selfish cause to either Super Delegates or the nation in general.

Harold Ickes' self-righteous indignation over a dilemma created by Gov. Granholm and the Michigan legislature was one of the most scandalous displays I have seen. How dare he lecture the DNC and the many well-meaning and sincere Democrats about the first amendment and democracy! A fundamental premise of democracy is the rule of law. What value does a vote really have in a lawless environment? For example, why should a vote that takes place two minutes after polls close not also count? Why should a voter not be allowed to vote twice? Because there are rules on voting, that's why. If they do not like the current rules, by all means change them through a legitimate process. Do not subvert the rules, place everyone in the invidious position of finding a suitable compromise, and then criticize the for not rubber-stamping the wrong doing. The jeers and rude behaviour of Sen. Clinton's supporters also did nothing to endear her increasing selfish cause to either Super Delegates or the nation in general.

While I am a Hillary admirer, I also know that she lost the election via poor long term planning post super-Tuesday (11 straight losses), severe credibility problems created by her behavior, etc. and not b/c she is a women or b/c the election was somehow stolen from her. It was about delegates, note votes-- that was made clear at the outset. In addition, the right to vote is reserved for the general election, not the primaries, this is why the lawsuits were tossed out by the courts. For all of our anger and finger-pointing, it is what it is.

The whole f`´ng business here IS CLINTON has lost the nomination. And is trying to win it by being decisive. Another reason why She will mess the whole country up, just as she failed her compaign, her DMC party, her husbund, and her intentions are to violate everything only because: SHE AINT WINNING. Mccain is much better than Clinton. ve lost respect of her. She fights to destroy and not to win. Her intentions are not to get Michigan and Florida.. BUT to cause enough cuos and promote republicans. So that she may say.. I told you SO WITHOUT ME DMC you cant win. Treacherous woman. The whole world is watching how destructive she is. I bet u teh world prefers Obama than Clinton. Good luck America.

The whole f`´ng business here IS CLINTON has lost the nomination. And is trying to win it by being decisive. Another reason why She will mess the whole country up, just as she failed her compaign, her DMC party, her husbund, and her intentions are to violate everything only because: SHE AINT WINNING. Mccain is much better than Clinton. ve lost respect of her. She fights to destroy and not to win. Her intentions are not to get Michigan and Florida.. BUT to cause enough cuos and promote republicans. So that she may say.. I told you SO WITHOUT ME DMC you cant win. Treacherous woman. The whole world is watching how destructive she is. I bet u teh world prefers Obama than Clinton. Good luck America.

The whole f`´ng business here IS CLINTON has lost the nomination. And is trying to win it by being decisive. Another reason why She will mess the whole country up, just as she failed her compaign, her DMC party, her husbund, and her intentions are to violate everything only because: SHE AINT WINNING. Mccain is much better than Clinton. ve lost respect of her. She fights to destroy and not to win. Her intentions are not to get Michigan and Florida.. BUT to cause enough cuos and promote republicans. So that she may say.. I told you SO WITHOUT ME DMC you cant win. Treacherous woman. The whole world is watching how destructive she is. I bet u teh world prefers Obama than Clinton. Good luck America.

RULES! can be folded into little squares with sharp corners and...never mind. The only rules that matter are the ones that Obama cares about. The Democrats in their infinite stupidity with great help from the Republicans have managed to PISS-OFF people in Florida and Michingan that VOTED and only count as 1/2. What a farce! They deserve to loose on that alone. Howard Dean, what a legacy you've created for your self and your party. I will be quiting the Democratic party and registering Independent. I will NOT vote Republican or Democrat. I may write in my little dog out of spite for what they've done to my vote. Democracy died already and trickery is the rule of law. I am not angry, I Am Enraged.

I am deeply disappointed by the Clinton campaign. To sit and argue to seat the Florida vote fully without punishment is one thing that is hard to swallow although I think we should work hard not to disfranchise voters. But to have the nerve to argue not to seat any delegates for Obama in Michigan and thereby disfranchise all the people who would have voted for Obama is a scandal. If there were one bit of honesty left in the Clinton campaign and her supporters the campaign should have argued not to seat any of the Michigan delegates since there cannot be a "fair" compromise without your opponent on the ballot.

I am deeply disappointed by the Clinton campaign. To sit and argue to seat the Florida vote fully without punishment is one thing that is hard to swallow although I think we should work hard not to disfranchise voters. But to have the nerve to argue not to seat any delegates for Obama in Michigan and thereby disfranchise all the people who would have voted for Obama is a scandal. If there were one bit of honesty left in the Clinton campaign and her supporters the campaign should have argued not to seat any of the Michigan delegates since there cannot be a "fair" compromise without your opponent on the ballot.

I'm bemused by this debate,and especially the Clinton supporters' argument. No democracy demands that "every vote cast counts" -- all of them demand that every VALID vote cast counts, and everybody was apprised of the FL/MI situation before their respective primaries.And again, Ms.Clinton agreed. The fact that she got any delegates at all out of those two should be a cause for gratitude.
In addition, the US is not a "one man one vote" country, if by "vote" we mean "equal share of representative power". As you all know, a South Dakota vote is worth tens of times as much as a California vote (Senate, remember?).
The rule of law is indeed fundamental to democratic politics. Arguably, the DNC violated it in order to appease the Clintonites (and FL and MI, of course). For the Clintonites to still yell and scream is distasteful. But I trust they'll get over it and will stop repeating this nauseating nonsense about how they will vote to end choice, cut more taxes for the super-rich and go to war with Iran rather than support the democratic nominee who won.

Today the church, tomorrow hell be divorcing Michelle - its amazing how this race has give Obama the moral backbone he is lacking.

GO HILLARY

I am amazed at how Clinton supporters feel they are do different from Obama supporters. First and foremost, both are democrats and believe in essentially the same path for the country.

I will say this once. HILLARY CLINTON IS NOT BILL CLINTON. Why say that? For some reason people think that returning a Clinton to office will bring back those 8 years. IDIOTS. Are world has changed, in part because of Bush, but more so because the world is growing exponentially and our resources are not. Whether its Clinton, Obama, or McCain, life is going to be hard for all of those who aren't independently rich.

Clinton supporters need to recognize that what happened at the RBC meeting was not the best thing (the best thing being FL and MI following the rules), but it was a solution to the problem. It was an admission by the DNC that their discretionary punishments were too harsh. Clinton nor Obama earned any delegates in those two states as they were non-binding votes until yesterday.

If you aren't wise enough or thorough enough to understand what is happening, then don't go about trying to spout your own personal propaganda. I am a democrat and will vote for a democrat. I voted Clinton, I voted Gore, I voted Kerry and I will vote for whoever the nominee is this fall. More democrats need to look at their beliefs and political standing and not the characters in the play.

I read the comments made by Clinton supporters and I don't understand how any group of people can be so blind. They have nothing concrete to say about Obama and why they don't like him. Everything they say is bases on loose speculation and made up reasoning.... On the other hand, Obama supporters spout nothing but facts concerning Clinton's lies, double talk, and poor sportsmanship behaviour. How could anyone with greater than a 5th grade education not see that Clinton is little more than a puppet master and that they are the puppets. It is as though she has a sign above her head that reads "FRAUD" and everyone can see it except for old women and uneducated hard working white people.

I hope that television shows like Family Guy and South Park tear her to shreds after this is all over.

Ok..here is something you all should keep in mind:
1. People don't GO TO CHURCH TO WORSHIP A

PASTOR.if you are a true believer, you would understand

that..the pastor just expresses his thoughts about the scripture

and is just like any other man like you and me..and could say

whatever he pleases..but NONE of what he says affect how

you feel as a christian.

2. OBAMA is a christian and NOT a muslim.

3.People should keep in mind that no country has invaded this

country since Pearl harbor and what resulted to a world war!

so please lets stop talking about protecting this country from

invasion. nobody is going to invade america...the government is

invading us with lies and political mongering.
we have a very good national security system.Americans are

under attack in iraq..afghanistan..and has become a public

enemy number 1..because of a desintegrating bush

administration and NOW people want to vote for Mccain?

For christ's sake, wake up people! we need a change of this

infinite loop of hypocrisy. Vote for obama or hilary.


IF america keeps intefering with the middle east..north

korea..russia.. believe me that is like waking up a sleeping bear

and provoking a world war.
NOBODY wants a war. BUT if you provoke it..it would

happen.
Americans have enough problems in this country ..lets solve

OUR problems within OUR country..THEN we would know

how to aid these other countries in an affirmative diplomatic

manner..and not to talk about more troops..troop suicides..etc

FINALLY, WE NEED TO SOLVE PROBLEMS WITHIN

THIS COUNTRY AND STOP POLITIKING LIKE THE

BUSH AND MCCAIN STRATEGY.
and when you listen to clinton, obama, and mccain speak

about this URGENT situation? Obama and Clinton are the

only ones that know what goes on in this country. Please do

not vote for McCain.He has nothing to offer except another

George bush supervised presidency.

I'm so sick of Hillary and her never ending whining. Why can she gracefully bow out and focus on uniting the party to bring changes to this country as the current system is so broken? I'm a registered republican, however, I'm very unhappy with many things Bush has put this country into.
I do think Obama can make a difference and will be a breath of fresh air we desperately need but if Hillary continues to divide the party, there is a chance that McCane will scoop this election.
That is a bad news! Way things are going, Hillary will push her sobb story all the way to the convention and because of her EGO bigger than the moon that she'll mess up the chance for a change that this country desperately needs.

I hate to say this but the media avoids it like the plague. Race. So much has been said about how race is playing in this nomination process. When close attention is paid to the polling data and the breakdowns, the following can be deduced.

1. African Americans are supporting Obama in part because he is the first viable African American candidate to run for president. While I do not agree with this practice, it is not racist. Why not? The polling data supports me as a vast majority of Obama supporters have said that they would support Hillary if she were to win the nomination. They are democrats and support democrats.

2. Rural white American voters support Clinton. This is primarily because Obama is not white. In any other campaign, be it that Obama was white, this election would have been over in February. Polling shows that many, if not a majority of Clinton supporters would not vote for Obama. Why? He is a democrat with democratic values. The only thing that makes him different from previous nominees/candidates is the color of his skin.

I hate to say this, but with education (especially a college education) comes exposure to diverse points of view and acceptance of people that are different than ourselves. It is much more likely that Americans who live in rural, less educated areas which are predominantly white, will hold onto outdated racist ideals. Racism is not as outward today as it was in the 60's and 70's. It is an inward focused set of beliefs that people do not openly express, but hold onto. My own grandmother, was heard on occasion making racial slurs in the privacy of her own home, but would never had called herself a racist, and that is the racism of today.

Hillary is not a racist and neither are the majority of her supporters but for Hillary to accept that many of her votes are made by racist Americans simply because her opponent in not white, is appalling. Hillary should clearly state that if a voter chooses to vote for her because of the race of her opponent, she does not want their vote, but she will never do that as she will do anything to become our president. Just as George Bush did.

Obama supporters wish Hillary would just go away. She will not. She will take her fight to the convention. If she loses, she will simply run as an Independent. Don't count her out!

Hillary needs to be in the race and never quit because the moment after she does the memory of her campaign will start to fade. Just watch, once it is clear she has lost there will no longer be news on her, and this is the only power she still holds.

Eventually all the high emotions on all sides will fade, but only once a nominee is chosen and even then a few months will need to pass. The only power she still holds is the power to threaten the Democratic party with ruin.

Hillary needs to be in the race and never quit because the moment after she does the memory of her campaign will start to fade. Just watch, once it is clear she has lost there will no longer be news on her, and this is the only power she still holds.

Eventually all the high emotions on all sides will fade, but only once a nominee is chosen and even then a few months will need to pass. The only power she still holds is the power to threaten the Democratic party with ruin.

For everyone who thinks that the DNC took votes away from Michigan and Florida, just remember that they were also penalized by the Republican party, who also took away half of their delegates for the early primary. The only difference is that their candidate is no longer being contested for the nomination. Rules are rules.....as someone said, if you show up to the poll at 8PM, you can't vote because the polls are closed. No one took your vote away from you. The "rules" say polls close at 7PM (generally).

Regardless of which candidate you support, the attitudes and motives as displayed by Mr. & Mrs. Clintons have now exposed them as arrogant (I wonder how it must feel to lose to a “fairytale” Ouch.) self-interested, and opportunistic with an ignorant socio-political, recklessness. If you think she’s doing this for ‘bedrock principles’ and not just to win the election, then ask her where these principles were when everyone agreed to penalize the states. Then go out and get some clean air. There are fewer and fewer of you by the minute.

And yes, the Clintons are and have been treating this as an entitlement. I find it interesting that she’s being linked more and more to Bush politics, as in “the Clinton/Bush years”. We should remember the fear-mongering, Osama-imagery campaign tone she ran in Pennsylvania; the alignment of Obama to Hamas and Muslims...nasty, Bush-time stuff. Is that what’s going to take America forward?

For Obama, he’s unfortunately missing a defining moment in his political career. Push for the full votes in Michigan, give her the allocation as defined by her. It would be an enormous glorious gesture of good will to Michigan, the party and the entire process; he’ll rake in massive support for political supremacy during a terribly immature moment in the party of the civil rights movement. People are hissing at their own partisans on television - what is this, the World Wrestling Federation?

Ironically, that would be as equally as “unprecedented” than everything else Ickes and her other supporters have been ballyhooing about. It will allow a candidate and her influence on the political system to set the allocation terms for thousands of missing voter ballots resulting from a dysfunctional, near- in-operative process of voting that with her doing, she helped create.

I am disgusted....I have voted Democrat for 40 plus years and after yesterdays decision by the DNC I will no longer be voting that way....
When they blatantly reshape the rules to push Mr Obamas position for the nomination that just shows me that I don't want to be associated with a party that cheats to get the end result they want....
That is not the definition of Democracy........

Paul in Fl, you are so wrong. I live in Florida and would have voted for Obama along with most of the people I know, but did not vote because I knew it would not count. I am not angry nor enraged. So don't think that you speak for most Floridians.

Claude C Jr. I thought your arguments were good until the last two paragraphs. Obama has no authority to "give" votes to Clinton. The DNC RBC did and they gave what they felt was the best solution. Clinton was going to complain about Michigan unless they were awarded their percentage plus the uncommitted votes left as that, uncommitted. She wanted the chance the "lure" these votes to her side. This was the only chance she had left to win this election and now that it is gone, she is going to fight and claw until either someone forces her out or she kills the dems chances in November.

As far as the previous suggestion that Hillary will run as an Independent. If that were to happen, you can go ahead and count on having President McCain for the next 4 years, Clintons will lose all support within the party as they will be seen as divisive selfish politicians not fit to govern.

Hillary needs a graceful way out that does not hurt the party, anything short of that will destroy the party for the foreseeable future.

True, Obama does not have any authority to give Clinton anything, because this was in the jurisdiction of the RBC and ultimately it was a committee decision to have been made. I suppose I was thinking more about his campaign’s stance during the process.

Instead of presenting their own allocation recommendations - in effect, presenting themselves fundamentally as being in opposition and on the other side of anyone - they could have adopted a far more yielding and altruistic approach that would garner them/him further respect in the eyes of Michigan, and the DNC, RBC, as well as appearing as the better flexible politician. I think the whole creation of the issue – like so many other missteps in Clinton’s campaign – could have come back to serve her extremely unwell. But alas, it’s does just that anyway.

The RBC would’ve probably voted just the same anyway. Shamefully, the propaganda forces pushing behind both campaign agendas has overshadowed the real problem – the dysfunctions of state and federal government. For the umpteenth time in modern American history, both parties come to fail together and screw up thousands of citizens’ rights.

It’s my hope that the Clintons figure out how to respectfully carry on their political futures, as well as help to repair the divisions resulting from a polarizing campaign. I reiterate – people hissing at the name of the first black candidate in our history, is the agenda of one person taken to the wrong extreme, and as it’s been said, is beneath the self-respect of Mr. & Mrs. Clinton both. It’s a shame really.

Listen,
 
If The DNC can read this then you need to know something. Your going to be talking soon amongst eachother whispering and then shouting how Gee, That Hillary Clinton doesn't seem so bad now. The Republicans are going to Tear Barack Hussein Obama apart, chew him up and spit him out. I predict a landslide victory for John Mc Cain if You decide to elect Barack Hussein Obama as the Nominnee, maybe by as much as 70/30. I for one will not vote for him, I will, like my family and friends, vote for John Mc Cain or not vote @ all. As a lifelong democrat I am expecting my party not to screw this up and loose a 3rd term to the Republicans and watch us slip further into national debt and cause a recession. The U.S. is close to 10 Trillion dollars in Debt right now. That is staggering. Hillary is the most Electable Candidate and after this is all said and done 45% of her over 18,000,000 voters like myself will not vote for Barack obama and that will loose the election for Hussein. Look @ Rezko, the Wright Factor, His Wife Michelle going off of the Deep End disrespecting our Mother Country,  his mentor groing up he refers to in his book as "Frank" was a Known Soviet Spy Communist that he learned from in Hawaii, and as of late his Great Uncle Misshap with helping the Jews in WWII, and his Newest church issue with a Priest  blasting and mocking Hillary Like a Non-Christian would using racial and inethical terms. This was a church that Barack Attended for over 20 years.  By you electing Barack Hussein Obama You are telling 45% of Hillary supporters (over 8,000,000) they're vote doesn't count and you don't care. By Electing Barack Hussein Obama you are Guaranteeing a victory for Rebublicans in the General Election. By Electing Barack Hussein Obama, You will change the Face of the Democratic Party for years to come. By not Counting mine or my families and friends votes in Fl. and Mi. You are in direct violation of mine and my families and friends Constitutional Rights. It was Barack's Idea not to Re-Vote as James Carville intended to help fund along with Bill Nelson from Fl., Michigan and Floridas Primaries. This is a tragedy amongst Americans and it seems very foul and Cover-Up., and I would appreciate it if you (The Democratic Party By laws Committe) Would get your act Straight and make Common Sense out of these issues instead of Complicating things causing a Throwed Election or A "High Jacked One". Hillary Has the popular vote, and has won the Swing states we need in a General Election, she is stronger with female voters abroad and also with white working class blue collar voters, she is stronger with christian voters, she has won all of the biggest population states and has the latino vote to count on,   she is Ahead in the Gallop Polls,  and has the Momentum @ the end of this race where NOBODY has had enough of Your precious Electoral Votes to win the Nomination. If it goes to the Convention then it's your Fault not Hillary's nor the Clinton Administration, In mine and over 17,000,000 peoples eyes right now Hillary Clinton is winning this thing despite what your conjured up idea of Committe rules states. "We the People"  Remember the Decleration of Independence? Our Votes Count Most, Not your Stinking Electoral or Super Delegate's #'s. You take this Win Away from Hillary Clinton and you are Forcing alot of Peoples hands, even more so then Baracks voters and supporters based on Every Poll that is out there right now and yes that will throw the election. Wake Up and Smell the Writing on the Wall? Thats's why Hillary Clinton is still running right now, despite what the Bias media of Fox, Msn, Abc, and Cnn says. Don't disenfranchise our Votes make every vote count the way the tickett indicated it would or you will most assuredly loose this election,  I and over 8,000,000 of my fellow American voters will make sure of that. I am putting together a Petition in Florida and Michigan with the Help of an attorney whom will remain annonymous right now that will indeed Represent the Thousands of Amercans who cast they're votes in these 2 states To Sue The DNC this is not a threat and it should not be taken lightly. "We the People" are very angry right now and upset that we have been Violated, Our Constitutional Rights have been taken away from us. The Decleration of Independence clearly states Fair Equality, It also states in article 14 of the DNC By laws that Fair Equality will be respected to the fullist extent when dealing with voters and a general Election. What they did to us should be considered Treason. Hillary Clinton has been strongly urged by her supporters and officials that perhaps she should run INDEPENDENT or under her OWN Affiliated Party and I just happen to know of over 17,000,000 People whom would vote for her already. One way or another you will have to seat Hillary Clinton or you will Loose this Election. Mark These Words.
 
VOTE HILLARY CLINTON OR LOOSE THE WHITE HOUSE IN THE UPCOMMING GENERAL ELECTION...

Kevin, it was worth it to wade through your nonsensical rant to read the line "Wake Up and Smell the Writing on the Wall?" It made me giggle a little. Thanks for brightening my day, even if your political analysis and predictions are completely wrongheaded.

Hey LN,

Lol if you Like but I must tell you that If you are A Democrat and do not want to loose the General Election you Better Pray that Hillary Clinton gets this Nomination. Loosing a 3rd term to the Republicans would be horrible, but what's worse would be Electing an Inexperienced well speaking Thug-Like Criminal like Barack Hussein Obama...