What's the similarity? you can't use the colors red, white, and blue now? Obama has exclusive use of that?
William -- the layout is similar, the RGB colors are almost the same, and Obama's tag line has been "Change We Can Believe In" for months.
This is not simply using red white and blue, but a blatant attempt to coopt a message.
Jen - I haven't often agreed with your take during the primary, but you have hit it dead on with this. It is going to take a lot more than swiping Obama's colors and mimicking his campaign slogan for McSame to win this thing.
John McThief's statement from Kenner, LA (which is NOT New Orleans btw) that this IS a Change Election WILL come back to haunt him. His "not the change we're looking for" meme and forced/crooked smile was just pathetic pathetic pathetic -- as noted even by all the Fux crew.
So Did Obama steal his from Bank of America?
McCain is insane. He knows that when you are McBush you are in deep sh*t. So what does he do.. he tries to copy the change message and the logo. He has started openly lying about things too.. he says something and then it turns out to be a lie. Here is the latest example:
Maya Rodriguez with the New Orleans CBS affiliate news brought a dose of reality to McCain’s town hall in Baton Rouge on Wednesday:
Rodriguez: Senator, my understanding is you have voted twice against the creation of commission to investigate the levee failures around New Orleans, and my question is: Why have you voted against that creation of that commission?
McCain: I’ve supported every investigation and ways of finding out what caused the tragedy. I’ve been here to New Orleans. I’ve met with people on the ground. I’ve met with the Governor. I’m not familiar with exactly what you said but I’ve been as active as anybody in efforts to restore the city. …
Despite his claims otherwise, the reporter was correct, and McCain’s record on Katrina is not at all what he would have you believe.
* McCain Voted Twice Against Establishing A Commission To Study The Response To Hurricane Katrina. [ 9/14/2005, 2/2/2006]
* McCain Opposed Granting Financial Relief To Those Affected By Hurricane Katrina. [9/15/2005]
* McCain Voted Against Five Months of Medicaid For Hurricane Katrina Victims. [11/3/2005]
* McCain Voted Against Emergency Funding Bill, Including $28 Billion for Hurricane Relief. [5/4/2006]
If McCain is not lying then it must be related to his old age dementia.
What a RACIST McCain is! How can he use the same colors on the same internet as Obama? RAAAACIST
McBush...
Typical libtard you are....
These were voted against because of all the DEMOCRAT PORK attached to each and every bill mentioned which had NOTHING to do with Katrina....
Nice try, but you're simply not ready...
ObamaLuZr: How are you going to deal with the next 8 years of President Obama? Heh. You better get ready....
MikeF....
Poor, poor, poor niave liberal......
You probably said the same thing in 2000....and 2004....
You'll see...
to obamaLuZr - There was no pork attached. Check your fax fuxfarce. I think we all know that McSame is damaged material and I'd rather not test his competency in a job that requires considerably more energy than his narcoleptic snooze through the cushy senatorial lunch club.
Fifth from the bottom of his USNA class? Does a student with this level of academic achievement get the opportunity to fly $50M fighter jets in today's military? No... Or, in Ted Stevensspeak, NO, NO, NO! They are probably in charge of ordering toilet paper for the carrier fleet sitting at some desk in an obscure office building in Norfolk. Chances are McCain's father "the admiral" made sure his sonny boy who barely graduated got that opportunity to demonstrate the right stuff and get his ass shot out of the sky. Maybe he lost his bearings or made a calculation error in his flight plan. I think McSame is going to end up swiftboating himself before too long.
"And this surprises you? Obama's campaign logo is a riff off McGovern's 1972 campaign logo."
Feels more like 1960 (See Kennedy vs. Nixon).
>>>Poor, poor, poor niave liberal......
Yeah, stop being so "niave".
To all you "niave" neocons:
S.Amdt. 1660
To establish a congressional commission to examine the Federal, State, and local response to the devastation wrought by Hurricane Katrina in the Gulf Region of the United States especially in the States of Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, and other areas impacted in the aftermath and make immediate corrective measures to improve such responses in the future.
Sponsor: Sen Clinton, Hillary Rodham
Co-Sponsors:
Sen Stabenow, Debbie [MI] - 9/8/2005
Sen Corzine, Jon S. [NJ] - 9/8/2005
Sen Reed, Jack [RI] - 9/8/2005
Sen Salazar, Ken [CO] - 9/8/2005
Sen Lautenberg, Frank R. [NJ] - 9/8/2005
Sen Jeffords, James M. [VT] - 9/8/2005
Sen Schumer, Charles E. [NY] - 9/8/2005
Sen Mikulski, Barbara A. [MD] - 9/8/2005
Sen Durbin, Richard [IL] - 9/9/2005
Sen Feinstein, Dianne [CA] - 9/9/2005
Sen Boxer, Barbara [CA] - 9/12/2005
*****Sen Obama, Barack [IL] - 9/12/2005*****
Sen Feingold, Russell D. [WI] - 9/12/2005
Sen Harkin, Tom [IA] - 9/12/2005
Sen Carper, Thomas R. [DE] - 9/13/2005
Sen Johnson, Tim [SD] - 9/13/2005
Put a plate of hot wings in the foreground, replace "Leader" with "Appetizer" and it could be an ad for TGI Fridays.
Straightman...
Ummmm Wrong.... There was pork attached to each and every bill McCain rightfully rejected.
Among others:
35M for the LA Seafood Promotion and Marketing Board
8M for alligator farmers
120M for a laboratory, and equipment at the Southern Regional Research Center
For you to say that there was no PORK attached shows how ignorant of facts you truly are...
Consider yourself schooled...back to the playground, leave the FACTS to the adults
B'Bye, now.....
Speaking of Wings....
Stealing a campaign logo is minor when compared to the reality that McCain Is “Insane”
From: Henry Lenoir
I have a theory about John McCain based on my twelve years in line fighter squadrons.
McCain is insane. The unimaginable sufferings he endured in Communist prisons unhinged him permanently.
Flying fighters in the 1980s and 90s, I got to know several Vietnam POWs including some who had been captive even longer than McCain’s five and a half years.
All were unbalanced. The ones I knew who were long-time POWs—with one exception and that exception I knew only very slightly—were high-functioning lunatics. Common denominators were trouble with alcohol, cars, divorces, tempers and aggressive flying verging on recklessness—a very unwelcome trait in a fighter pilot.
Bear in mind that they were all in good enough shape after prison to get back into line fighter squadrons. But while McCain was able to get flight orders after Hanoi, he was never assigned to a line attack squadron or a carrier air wing again.
Arizona Senator John McCain III went to the U.S. Naval Academy because he was the grandson and son of Admirals John McCain Sr. & Jr., both Annapolis graduates.
McCain Senior was a distinguished fleet commander in the Pacific War who rotated command of the fast carrier task force with Admiral Marc Andrew Mitscher. The only reason Mitscher didn’t get his fourth star was that he died, totally worn-out, a few months after V-J Day.
Junior McCain rose to be Commander-in-Chief of the Pacific during Vietnam. Because of the bizarre chain of authority, he was nominally General William Westmoreland’s commander.
McCain III, however, was a mediocre midshipman (894 of 899 in his class) who became an average attack pilot with a history of foolish mishaps in the training command and the fleet. Without the admirals in his family tree, I doubt his career would have survived his crashes.
McCain’s getting shot down might have been as much a tactical blunder as an act of God. He was badly injured in his ejection, and the North Vietnamese Army – as was typical – gave him no real medical attention. That he was tough in captivity is beyond dispute.
McCain also – again as was typical of the long-time POWs – spent at least two years in solitary. Once he got out McCain stayed in the Navy but was not promoted to flag rank, retiring as a Captain in 1981. With his POW service, probably the only thing that could have kept him from promotion to Captain would have been raping the Chief of Naval Operation’s daughter at high noon on the Mall.
Should the fact that the Navy passed on a third consecutive Admiral John McCain tell us something? Maybe – in 1980 anyway – the collective wisdom of the Navy was greater than that of Arizona’s voters a few years later.
The combination of the moral, mental and physical injuries of years of captivity deranged McCain. Like many of the other POWs I know, McCain has a sense of superiority to those who haven’t suffered what he has.
McCain doesn’t listen. He likes to stir things up---like his “Banana Bill”--- but I don’t see any principled pattern to his outbursts. Compounding his problem, McCain must be in chronic pain from injuries that never healed properly. He may be medicated.
Anyway, although he is a Republican, I think it would be a disaster – as bad as Bush – if John McCain were to become President.
McCain does far too much harm already, right where he is.
ObamaluZr... Don't school me. McCain lied in his answer to the DIRECT Question he was asked about the commission. This is fresh from FactCheck.org:
"McCain suggested that he was merely voting against wasteful spending. He told the Louisiana reporter that he voted against "one of the bills" because it was riddled with pork.
McCain: "I also voted against one of the bills that came down that was loaded with pork barrel projects that had nothing to do with New Orleans too. It had billions for projects and programs that had nothing to do with the recovery of the city of New Orleans."
The Clinton amendments, however, would have provided $3 million for the investigation but no funds for anything else.
NO FUNDS FOR ANYTHING ELSE. Clear enough? Investigating a fiasco of monumental proportions exacerbated by the unfathomable incompetence of the hack filled Bush administration.
Katrina Kerfuffle
June 5, 2008
McCain claims he "supported every investigation" into the government's role regarding the hurricane, when in fact he twice voted against an independent commission.
Summary
McCain was asked by a New Orleans reporter why he voted twice against an independent commission to investigate the government’s failings before and after Hurricane Katrina, and he incorrectly stated that he had "voted for every investigation."
McCain actually voted twice, in 2005 and 2006, to defeat a Democratic amendment that would have set up an independent commission along the lines of the 9/11 Commission. At the time of the second vote, members of both parties were complaining that the White House was refusing requests by Senate investigators for information.
The McCain campaign accused the Obama campaign of "tired negative attacks" for pointing out and documenting McCain’s gaffe.
Note: This is a summary only. The full article with analysis, images and citations may be viewed on our Web site: www.factcheck.org
go get em,luzr.
Sorry Everyone. LuZr's got me all worked up. These posts belonged on the MCCain Doesn't give a crap about Katrina victims topic and the McCain is Insane topic.
Dear LuZr,
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As a loyal Republican, I am sad to see McCain running so far from our President. I may have to sit this one out unless McCain is more loyal to George W Bush. I urge all Republicans to think more clearly about just who McCain is and if he can be trusted.
What's the Old Guy doing in the picture? He looks like his teeth hurt. Did you escape from the Home?
McCain's tagging around behind Obama like a school kid with a crush. Hey, Barry, how 'bout riding on my plane? How 'bout coming with me to town hall meetings?
Next we're gonna hear, Hey, Barry, wanna play prezident with me?
Counterfeit!
Borrowing a 36 year-old logo is fine.
Stealing your opponents logo and catch-phrase in the same f@#%ing election is the mark of an idiot!
I believe the red stripes represents the red stripes from the American flag. I don't see why Obama can use them but McCain not.
McCain fought for that flag. Obama... well... he smoked dope....
This is a non issue. Only so many ways to arrange colors, stripes, etc. The commenter who mentioned Bank of America is right on. Also, pick any combination of the words "change, leader, believe, hope, future, integrity, trust, whatever.." put them together randomly and you have a slogan. What matters is what is behind the slogans. I leave that to other commenters to evaluate.
As for Katrina, does anyone really believe that a Govt appointed commission is going to discover or resolve anything? It's just a witch hunt. Dems and Repubs are equally to blame for the levees breaking (as well as Mother Nature!!).
And finally, McBush, McThief, McInsertword just seems juvenile.
Well, the upside is that campaign posters of the two campaigns won't clash.
I guess the two candidates are now in general election mode, elbowing their way into the middle, as represented by blue skies and candy-cane landscapes, and trying to paint their opponent as some wacky out-there orange or mauve or yellow candidate, with wild non-stripy ideas and porcelain porters with looking-glass ties.
This is going to be the best general election season ever.
Let's see....
There's the list of things one can not speak of about Obama.
Now, there's a list of colors and patterns no one else can use in the advertising, too.
Obama and his crowd are quite elitist.
Moesart,
Oh you can talk about it all ya want. We was just laughing at your candidate cause he trying to put some of Obama's fire into his soggy old campaign. I never knew that excitement and enthusiasm was elitist but then again I'm not a republican so I guess I'm stupid.
Red, White and Blue background: No Problem
Guy with creepy smile: OK
Co-opting the Other Guys slogan because you are intellectually bankrupt: Priceless!
McInsane should've stuck to the green.
Stealing your opponents logo and catch-phrase in the same f@#%ing election is the a@#hole move of the century! He really must be desperate.
By the way, those who think Obama is Elitist... the correct word is SMART. And it's about time we had a President who is smart. Even Republicans can agree on this point.
@ Moesart:
ELITE:
1. A group or class of persons or a member of such a group or class, enjoying superior intellectual, social, or economic status: “In addition to notions of social equality there was much emphasis on the role of elites and of heroes within them” (Times Literary Supplement).
2. The best or most skilled members of a group: the football team's elite.
I love it when Republicans pull out the "ELITIST" card. Just another buzzword to nail democrats as Limosine Liberals to the common folk. Well heres the thing - if I go to a doctor for a health issue, I want an elite doctor. If I get a contractor to build my house, I want an elite contractor. For obvious reasons, I want elite people doing the things that I do not have the expertise for. So as far as the POTUS,I want an elite person to fill the role. I think Obama is that person.
And the Republicans have proved over the last 8 years what they prefer.
For the factually challenged who see McCain as a crusader against pork:
McCain Fights Other's Pork, Pushes His Own. "Arizona Sen. John McCain is sponsoring two interesting pieces of legislation. One mounts a direct assault on congressional earmarks, those little morsels of home district pork that lawmakers slip into unrelated spending bills. The other steers $10 million to the University of Arizona to launch an academic center honoring the late Supreme Court Chief Justice William Rehnquist. Yes, McCain does seem to be saying to himself: Stop me before I sin again. McCain and co-sponsor Jon Kyl, Arizona's other GOP senator, insist their pork proposal isn't hypocritical because they aren't trying to hide anything. It is set out in stand-alone legislation to be vetted on its own merits. In Congress, it seems, the only bad pork projects are those sponsored by somebody else." [Chicago Tribune, 3/4/06]
McCain Broke His Own Pork-Barrel Spending Rules. "After years of crusading against 'pork-barrel' spending projects in Congressional appropriations bills, Senator McCain may be breaking his own rules. McCain pushed for, and got, $14.3 million for Arizona's Luke Air Force Base inserted into the just-completed fiscal 2004 military construction appropriations conference report. The only problem is the project to acquire more land near the base was not requested. [Roll Call, 11/6/03]
McCain's Chief Fundraiser Earned $3.9 Million for Creating $40 Million in Federal Pork. McCain's new Presidential campaign consigliere, and chief fundraising strategist, Tom Loeffler, founder of Loeffler Group has spent much of the last decade as a lobbyist. According to documents filed with the Secretary of the Senate, Loeffler and his associates have collected $3,920,000 over the years lobbying for the Texas cities of San Antonio, Houston, Pharr, Donna and Mercedes. In return, according to Citizens Against Government Waste, the cities received $40 Million and possibly more in Federal Government pork. [Politico, 4/4/07; Washington Post, 4/4/07; Lobbyist Disclosure Documents Filled with Secretary of the Senate, Citizens Against Government Waste Pig Book 2003-06]
Additionally, in 1999, McCain chaired the Commerce Commitee and that committee set a record for earmarks. What leadership he has shown. Or more accurately, what leadership?
That McCain picture is an obvious fake. There isn't a lapel pin.
>>>does anyone really believe that a Govt appointed commission is going to discover or resolve anything?
Yes.
Besides, why don't you ask NEW ORLEANS residents. THEY wanted a commission.
>>>Dems and Repubs are equally to blame for the levees breaking (as well as Mother Nature!!).
See? You know all the answers. No investigation needed. Ha.
If you can find your way to google, do a search for "Mississippi River Gulf Outlet Katrina"
Since you are a partisan and an ignoramus, I'll post something about MRGO for other people to see:
"""Levees along MR-GO were breached in approximately 20 places along its length, directly flooding most of Saint Bernard Parish and New Orleans East. Storm surge from MR-GO is also a leading suspect in the three breaches of the Industrial Canal.
Three months before Katrina, Hassan Mashriqui, a storm surge expert at Louisiana State University's Hurricane Center, called MR-GO a "critical and fundamental flaw" in the Corps' hurricane defenses, a "Trojan Horse" that could amplify storm surges 20 to 40 percent. Following the storm, an engineering investigation and computer modelling showed that the outlet intensified the initial surge by 20 percent, raised the height of the wall of water about three feet, and increased the velocity of the surge from 3 feet per second (0.9 m/s) to 8 feet per second (2.4 m/s) in the funnel. Mashriqui believes this contributed to the scouring that undermined the levees and floodwalls along the outlet and Industrial Canal. "Without MRGO, the flooding would have been much less," he said. "The levees might have overtopped, but they wouldn't have been washed away." The Army Corps of Engineers disputes this causality and maintains Katrina would have overwhelmed the levees with or without the contributing effect of MR-GO.[5]
The shoaling of the MR-GO has caused it to be unpassable for deep-draft vessels. Officials of St. Bernard Parish oppose its reopening. Others have called for re-opening it but equipping it with protective floodgates, or accelerating construction of the Inner Harbor Navigational Canal lock project, which when completed would allow MR-GO to be closed without affecting commercial traffic.[6]
In May of 2007 the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers went public with a request to close the MR-GO to all traffic and to build an earthen dam to block it. The announcement was greeted positively by most, but not all, Louisiana residents."""
McCain's partisans are reduced to what all Republicans are reduced to when their fearbuttons quit working: stupid lies. Not just lies, but lies that are so obviously stupid and easily refuted that you have to wonder how they could have possibly thought those lies would fly in the first place.
Of course, the Republicans are so used to a compliant media that doesn't bother to do even basic fact checking that the rise of Teh Google, Teh YouTube, and Teh Wikipedias has completely shocked them. Between those three research/distribution methods, Americans have managed to ferret out dog-whistling "Macaca" Senators and reproduce in excruciating detail every one of John McCain's public stumbles that the servile media won't.
McCain trying to confuse the appalachians again?
McCain's campaign is quickly becoming a bad parody.
now his blog is named "the McCain Report". Even Colbert must've taken a double take when hearing about that one.
And, as if that weren't enough, the subtitle is "A Blog You Can Believe In"?? Really?
I already feel sorry for McCain, but his campaign is on the verge of leaving surreal and simply becoming sad.
McCain is stealing from Obama? Obama is not original “change” was used in both Carter and Mondale’s campaign, not to mention “Yes, we can” is a blatant rip-off of Bush’s Yes, America Can!
1976 Jimmy Carter - A Leader, For a Change
1984 Walter Mondale - America Needs a Change
2004 George W. Bush - Yes, America Can!
Obama uses the symbol of the rising sun, supposedly to represent hope.
Japan is known as "The Land of the Rising Sun" and the “rising sun” flag is the military flag of Japan. So, this symbol may be new to the US, but not a new symbol. It doesn’t show respect to the US disparaging our flag and recreating another countries emblem.
So, now Obama is only allowed to use traces of the flag in his emblem?
McCain may also be using the stripes of the flag, but at least he’s not disrespecting it!
Naomi Keys and others like her have hit the nail on the head.
It reminds me of Japans rising sun logo...hate to even see it because it reminds me of what will happen to the us if OBAMA is elected.
I'm tired of the disrespect that the dems. have for others. Hollywood, Oprah and the media are winning this for Obama. If Obama was dragged through the mud like they have TRIED to do to Palin he would have them prosecuted. Check with St.Louis,Mo. prosecuters.
Obama is a socialist and I do not care to have a socialist country. All of you who plan to vote for Obama need to check it out good before voting because you will switch to the other side once HE is elected...Please as a free American, that wants to stay FREE VOTE FOR McCAIN-PALIN.
Naomi Keys and others like her have hit the nail on the head.
It reminds me of Japans rising sun logo...hate to even see it because it reminds me of what will happen to the us if OBAMA is elected.
I'm tired of the disrespect that the dems. have for others. Hollywood, Oprah and the media are winning this for Obama. If Obama was dragged through the mud like they have TRIED to do to Palin he would have them prosecuted. Check with St.Louis,Mo. prosecuters.
Obama is a socialist and I do not care to have a socialist country. All of you who plan to vote for Obama need to check it out good before voting because you will switch to the other side once HE is elected...Please as a free American, that wants to stay FREE VOTE FOR McCAIN-PALIN.
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Oh man. I'd sue. lol
What's the similarity? you can't use the colors red, white, and blue now? Obama has exclusive use of that?
William -- the layout is similar, the RGB colors are almost the same, and Obama's tag line has been "Change We Can Believe In" for months.
This is not simply using red white and blue, but a blatant attempt to coopt a message.
Jen - I haven't often agreed with your take during the primary, but you have hit it dead on with this. It is going to take a lot more than swiping Obama's colors and mimicking his campaign slogan for McSame to win this thing.
And this surprises you? Obama's campaign logo is a riff off McGovern's 1972 campaign logo.
Yes.
Not only that but:
OBAMA:
Change we can believe in
McThief:
A leader we can believe in
John McThief's statement from Kenner, LA (which is NOT New Orleans btw) that this IS a Change Election WILL come back to haunt him. His "not the change we're looking for" meme and forced/crooked smile was just pathetic pathetic pathetic -- as noted even by all the Fux crew.
So Did Obama steal his from Bank of America?
McCain is insane. He knows that when you are McBush you are in deep sh*t. So what does he do.. he tries to copy the change message and the logo. He has started openly lying about things too.. he says something and then it turns out to be a lie. Here is the latest example:
Maya Rodriguez with the New Orleans CBS affiliate news brought a dose of reality to McCain’s town hall in Baton Rouge on Wednesday:
Rodriguez: Senator, my understanding is you have voted twice against the creation of commission to investigate the levee failures around New Orleans, and my question is: Why have you voted against that creation of that commission?
McCain: I’ve supported every investigation and ways of finding out what caused the tragedy. I’ve been here to New Orleans. I’ve met with people on the ground. I’ve met with the Governor. I’m not familiar with exactly what you said but I’ve been as active as anybody in efforts to restore the city. …
Despite his claims otherwise, the reporter was correct, and McCain’s record on Katrina is not at all what he would have you believe.
* McCain Voted Twice Against Establishing A Commission To Study The Response To Hurricane Katrina. [ 9/14/2005, 2/2/2006]
* McCain Opposed Granting Financial Relief To Those Affected By Hurricane Katrina. [9/15/2005]
* McCain Voted Against Five Months of Medicaid For Hurricane Katrina Victims. [11/3/2005]
* McCain Voted Against Emergency Funding Bill, Including $28 Billion for Hurricane Relief. [5/4/2006]
If McCain is not lying then it must be related to his old age dementia.
What a RACIST McCain is! How can he use the same colors on the same internet as Obama? RAAAACIST
McBush...
Typical libtard you are....
These were voted against because of all the DEMOCRAT PORK attached to each and every bill mentioned which had NOTHING to do with Katrina....
Nice try, but you're simply not ready...
ObamaLuZr: How are you going to deal with the next 8 years of President Obama? Heh. You better get ready....
MikeF....
Poor, poor, poor niave liberal......
You probably said the same thing in 2000....and 2004....
You'll see...
to obamaLuZr - There was no pork attached. Check your fax fuxfarce. I think we all know that McSame is damaged material and I'd rather not test his competency in a job that requires considerably more energy than his narcoleptic snooze through the cushy senatorial lunch club.
Fifth from the bottom of his USNA class? Does a student with this level of academic achievement get the opportunity to fly $50M fighter jets in today's military? No... Or, in Ted Stevensspeak, NO, NO, NO! They are probably in charge of ordering toilet paper for the carrier fleet sitting at some desk in an obscure office building in Norfolk. Chances are McCain's father "the admiral" made sure his sonny boy who barely graduated got that opportunity to demonstrate the right stuff and get his ass shot out of the sky. Maybe he lost his bearings or made a calculation error in his flight plan. I think McSame is going to end up swiftboating himself before too long.
"And this surprises you? Obama's campaign logo is a riff off McGovern's 1972 campaign logo."
Feels more like 1960 (See Kennedy vs. Nixon).
>>>Poor, poor, poor niave liberal......
Yeah, stop being so "niave".
To all you "niave" neocons:
S.Amdt. 1660
To establish a congressional commission to examine the Federal, State, and local response to the devastation wrought by Hurricane Katrina in the Gulf Region of the United States especially in the States of Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, and other areas impacted in the aftermath and make immediate corrective measures to improve such responses in the future.
Sponsor: Sen Clinton, Hillary Rodham
Co-Sponsors:
Sen Stabenow, Debbie [MI] - 9/8/2005
Sen Corzine, Jon S. [NJ] - 9/8/2005
Sen Reed, Jack [RI] - 9/8/2005
Sen Salazar, Ken [CO] - 9/8/2005
Sen Lautenberg, Frank R. [NJ] - 9/8/2005
Sen Jeffords, James M. [VT] - 9/8/2005
Sen Schumer, Charles E. [NY] - 9/8/2005
Sen Mikulski, Barbara A. [MD] - 9/8/2005
Sen Durbin, Richard [IL] - 9/9/2005
Sen Feinstein, Dianne [CA] - 9/9/2005
Sen Boxer, Barbara [CA] - 9/12/2005
*****Sen Obama, Barack [IL] - 9/12/2005*****
Sen Feingold, Russell D. [WI] - 9/12/2005
Sen Harkin, Tom [IA] - 9/12/2005
Sen Carper, Thomas R. [DE] - 9/13/2005
Sen Johnson, Tim [SD] - 9/13/2005
Votes:
*****McCain (R-AZ), Nay*****
Lieberman (D-CT), Yea
Democrats who voted Nay:
***ZERO***
Republicans who voted Nay:
***54***
No excuse.
This is not "DEMOCRAT PORK" this was an up-or-down-vote amendment to an appropriations bill.
No excuse.
senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=1&vote=00229
Put a plate of hot wings in the foreground, replace "Leader" with "Appetizer" and it could be an ad for TGI Fridays.
Straightman...
Ummmm Wrong.... There was pork attached to each and every bill McCain rightfully rejected.
Among others:
35M for the LA Seafood Promotion and Marketing Board
8M for alligator farmers
120M for a laboratory, and equipment at the Southern Regional Research Center
For you to say that there was no PORK attached shows how ignorant of facts you truly are...
Consider yourself schooled...back to the playground, leave the FACTS to the adults
B'Bye, now.....
Speaking of Wings....
Stealing a campaign logo is minor when compared to the reality that McCain Is “Insane”
From: Henry Lenoir
I have a theory about John McCain based on my twelve years in line fighter squadrons.
McCain is insane. The unimaginable sufferings he endured in Communist prisons unhinged him permanently.
Flying fighters in the 1980s and 90s, I got to know several Vietnam POWs including some who had been captive even longer than McCain’s five and a half years.
All were unbalanced. The ones I knew who were long-time POWs—with one exception and that exception I knew only very slightly—were high-functioning lunatics. Common denominators were trouble with alcohol, cars, divorces, tempers and aggressive flying verging on recklessness—a very unwelcome trait in a fighter pilot.
Bear in mind that they were all in good enough shape after prison to get back into line fighter squadrons. But while McCain was able to get flight orders after Hanoi, he was never assigned to a line attack squadron or a carrier air wing again.
Arizona Senator John McCain III went to the U.S. Naval Academy because he was the grandson and son of Admirals John McCain Sr. & Jr., both Annapolis graduates.
McCain Senior was a distinguished fleet commander in the Pacific War who rotated command of the fast carrier task force with Admiral Marc Andrew Mitscher. The only reason Mitscher didn’t get his fourth star was that he died, totally worn-out, a few months after V-J Day.
Junior McCain rose to be Commander-in-Chief of the Pacific during Vietnam. Because of the bizarre chain of authority, he was nominally General William Westmoreland’s commander.
McCain III, however, was a mediocre midshipman (894 of 899 in his class) who became an average attack pilot with a history of foolish mishaps in the training command and the fleet. Without the admirals in his family tree, I doubt his career would have survived his crashes.
McCain’s getting shot down might have been as much a tactical blunder as an act of God. He was badly injured in his ejection, and the North Vietnamese Army – as was typical – gave him no real medical attention. That he was tough in captivity is beyond dispute.
McCain also – again as was typical of the long-time POWs – spent at least two years in solitary. Once he got out McCain stayed in the Navy but was not promoted to flag rank, retiring as a Captain in 1981. With his POW service, probably the only thing that could have kept him from promotion to Captain would have been raping the Chief of Naval Operation’s daughter at high noon on the Mall.
Should the fact that the Navy passed on a third consecutive Admiral John McCain tell us something? Maybe – in 1980 anyway – the collective wisdom of the Navy was greater than that of Arizona’s voters a few years later.
The combination of the moral, mental and physical injuries of years of captivity deranged McCain. Like many of the other POWs I know, McCain has a sense of superiority to those who haven’t suffered what he has.
McCain doesn’t listen. He likes to stir things up---like his “Banana Bill”--- but I don’t see any principled pattern to his outbursts. Compounding his problem, McCain must be in chronic pain from injuries that never healed properly. He may be medicated.
Anyway, although he is a Republican, I think it would be a disaster – as bad as Bush – if John McCain were to become President.
McCain does far too much harm already, right where he is.
ObamaluZr... Don't school me. McCain lied in his answer to the DIRECT Question he was asked about the commission. This is fresh from FactCheck.org:
"McCain suggested that he was merely voting against wasteful spending. He told the Louisiana reporter that he voted against "one of the bills" because it was riddled with pork.
McCain: "I also voted against one of the bills that came down that was loaded with pork barrel projects that had nothing to do with New Orleans too. It had billions for projects and programs that had nothing to do with the recovery of the city of New Orleans."
The Clinton amendments, however, would have provided $3 million for the investigation but no funds for anything else.
NO FUNDS FOR ANYTHING ELSE. Clear enough? Investigating a fiasco of monumental proportions exacerbated by the unfathomable incompetence of the hack filled Bush administration.
Katrina Kerfuffle
June 5, 2008
McCain claims he "supported every investigation" into the government's role regarding the hurricane, when in fact he twice voted against an independent commission.
Summary
McCain was asked by a New Orleans reporter why he voted twice against an independent commission to investigate the government’s failings before and after Hurricane Katrina, and he incorrectly stated that he had "voted for every investigation."
McCain actually voted twice, in 2005 and 2006, to defeat a Democratic amendment that would have set up an independent commission along the lines of the 9/11 Commission. At the time of the second vote, members of both parties were complaining that the White House was refusing requests by Senate investigators for information.
The McCain campaign accused the Obama campaign of "tired negative attacks" for pointing out and documenting McCain’s gaffe.
Note: This is a summary only. The full article with analysis, images and citations may be viewed on our Web site: www.factcheck.org
go get em,luzr.
Sorry Everyone. LuZr's got me all worked up. These posts belonged on the MCCain Doesn't give a crap about Katrina victims topic and the McCain is Insane topic.
Dear LuZr,
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As a loyal Republican, I am sad to see McCain running so far from our President. I may have to sit this one out unless McCain is more loyal to George W Bush. I urge all Republicans to think more clearly about just who McCain is and if he can be trusted.
What's the Old Guy doing in the picture? He looks like his teeth hurt. Did you escape from the Home?
McCain's tagging around behind Obama like a school kid with a crush. Hey, Barry, how 'bout riding on my plane? How 'bout coming with me to town hall meetings?
Next we're gonna hear, Hey, Barry, wanna play prezident with me?
Counterfeit!
Borrowing a 36 year-old logo is fine.
Stealing your opponents logo and catch-phrase in the same f@#%ing election is the mark of an idiot!
I believe the red stripes represents the red stripes from the American flag. I don't see why Obama can use them but McCain not.
McCain fought for that flag. Obama... well... he smoked dope....
This is a non issue. Only so many ways to arrange colors, stripes, etc. The commenter who mentioned Bank of America is right on. Also, pick any combination of the words "change, leader, believe, hope, future, integrity, trust, whatever.." put them together randomly and you have a slogan. What matters is what is behind the slogans. I leave that to other commenters to evaluate.
As for Katrina, does anyone really believe that a Govt appointed commission is going to discover or resolve anything? It's just a witch hunt. Dems and Repubs are equally to blame for the levees breaking (as well as Mother Nature!!).
And finally, McBush, McThief, McInsertword just seems juvenile.
Well, the upside is that campaign posters of the two campaigns won't clash.
I guess the two candidates are now in general election mode, elbowing their way into the middle, as represented by blue skies and candy-cane landscapes, and trying to paint their opponent as some wacky out-there orange or mauve or yellow candidate, with wild non-stripy ideas and porcelain porters with looking-glass ties.
This is going to be the best general election season ever.
Let's see....
There's the list of things one can not speak of about Obama.
Now, there's a list of colors and patterns no one else can use in the advertising, too.
Obama and his crowd are quite elitist.
Moesart,
Oh you can talk about it all ya want. We was just laughing at your candidate cause he trying to put some of Obama's fire into his soggy old campaign. I never knew that excitement and enthusiasm was elitist but then again I'm not a republican so I guess I'm stupid.
Red, White and Blue background: No Problem
Guy with creepy smile: OK
Co-opting the Other Guys slogan because you are intellectually bankrupt: Priceless!
McInsane should've stuck to the green.
Stealing your opponents logo and catch-phrase in the same f@#%ing election is the a@#hole move of the century! He really must be desperate.
By the way, those who think Obama is Elitist... the correct word is SMART. And it's about time we had a President who is smart. Even Republicans can agree on this point.
@ Moesart:
ELITE:
1. A group or class of persons or a member of such a group or class, enjoying superior intellectual, social, or economic status: “In addition to notions of social equality there was much emphasis on the role of elites and of heroes within them” (Times Literary Supplement).
2. The best or most skilled members of a group: the football team's elite.
I love it when Republicans pull out the "ELITIST" card. Just another buzzword to nail democrats as Limosine Liberals to the common folk. Well heres the thing - if I go to a doctor for a health issue, I want an elite doctor. If I get a contractor to build my house, I want an elite contractor. For obvious reasons, I want elite people doing the things that I do not have the expertise for. So as far as the POTUS,I want an elite person to fill the role. I think Obama is that person.
And the Republicans have proved over the last 8 years what they prefer.
For the factually challenged who see McCain as a crusader against pork:
McCain Fights Other's Pork, Pushes His Own. "Arizona Sen. John McCain is sponsoring two interesting pieces of legislation. One mounts a direct assault on congressional earmarks, those little morsels of home district pork that lawmakers slip into unrelated spending bills. The other steers $10 million to the University of Arizona to launch an academic center honoring the late Supreme Court Chief Justice William Rehnquist. Yes, McCain does seem to be saying to himself: Stop me before I sin again. McCain and co-sponsor Jon Kyl, Arizona's other GOP senator, insist their pork proposal isn't hypocritical because they aren't trying to hide anything. It is set out in stand-alone legislation to be vetted on its own merits. In Congress, it seems, the only bad pork projects are those sponsored by somebody else." [Chicago Tribune, 3/4/06]
McCain Broke His Own Pork-Barrel Spending Rules. "After years of crusading against 'pork-barrel' spending projects in Congressional appropriations bills, Senator McCain may be breaking his own rules. McCain pushed for, and got, $14.3 million for Arizona's Luke Air Force Base inserted into the just-completed fiscal 2004 military construction appropriations conference report. The only problem is the project to acquire more land near the base was not requested. [Roll Call, 11/6/03]
McCain's Chief Fundraiser Earned $3.9 Million for Creating $40 Million in Federal Pork. McCain's new Presidential campaign consigliere, and chief fundraising strategist, Tom Loeffler, founder of Loeffler Group has spent much of the last decade as a lobbyist. According to documents filed with the Secretary of the Senate, Loeffler and his associates have collected $3,920,000 over the years lobbying for the Texas cities of San Antonio, Houston, Pharr, Donna and Mercedes. In return, according to Citizens Against Government Waste, the cities received $40 Million and possibly more in Federal Government pork. [Politico, 4/4/07; Washington Post, 4/4/07; Lobbyist Disclosure Documents Filled with Secretary of the Senate, Citizens Against Government Waste Pig Book 2003-06]
Additionally, in 1999, McCain chaired the Commerce Commitee and that committee set a record for earmarks. What leadership he has shown. Or more accurately, what leadership?
That McCain picture is an obvious fake. There isn't a lapel pin.
>>>does anyone really believe that a Govt appointed commission is going to discover or resolve anything?
Yes.
Besides, why don't you ask NEW ORLEANS residents. THEY wanted a commission.
>>>Dems and Repubs are equally to blame for the levees breaking (as well as Mother Nature!!).
See? You know all the answers. No investigation needed. Ha.
If you can find your way to google, do a search for "Mississippi River Gulf Outlet Katrina"
Since you are a partisan and an ignoramus, I'll post something about MRGO for other people to see:
"""Levees along MR-GO were breached in approximately 20 places along its length, directly flooding most of Saint Bernard Parish and New Orleans East. Storm surge from MR-GO is also a leading suspect in the three breaches of the Industrial Canal.
Three months before Katrina, Hassan Mashriqui, a storm surge expert at Louisiana State University's Hurricane Center, called MR-GO a "critical and fundamental flaw" in the Corps' hurricane defenses, a "Trojan Horse" that could amplify storm surges 20 to 40 percent. Following the storm, an engineering investigation and computer modelling showed that the outlet intensified the initial surge by 20 percent, raised the height of the wall of water about three feet, and increased the velocity of the surge from 3 feet per second (0.9 m/s) to 8 feet per second (2.4 m/s) in the funnel. Mashriqui believes this contributed to the scouring that undermined the levees and floodwalls along the outlet and Industrial Canal. "Without MRGO, the flooding would have been much less," he said. "The levees might have overtopped, but they wouldn't have been washed away." The Army Corps of Engineers disputes this causality and maintains Katrina would have overwhelmed the levees with or without the contributing effect of MR-GO.[5]
The shoaling of the MR-GO has caused it to be unpassable for deep-draft vessels. Officials of St. Bernard Parish oppose its reopening. Others have called for re-opening it but equipping it with protective floodgates, or accelerating construction of the Inner Harbor Navigational Canal lock project, which when completed would allow MR-GO to be closed without affecting commercial traffic.[6]
In May of 2007 the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers went public with a request to close the MR-GO to all traffic and to build an earthen dam to block it. The announcement was greeted positively by most, but not all, Louisiana residents."""
McCain's partisans are reduced to what all Republicans are reduced to when their fearbuttons quit working: stupid lies. Not just lies, but lies that are so obviously stupid and easily refuted that you have to wonder how they could have possibly thought those lies would fly in the first place.
Of course, the Republicans are so used to a compliant media that doesn't bother to do even basic fact checking that the rise of Teh Google, Teh YouTube, and Teh Wikipedias has completely shocked them. Between those three research/distribution methods, Americans have managed to ferret out dog-whistling "Macaca" Senators and reproduce in excruciating detail every one of John McCain's public stumbles that the servile media won't.
McCain trying to confuse the appalachians again?
McCain's campaign is quickly becoming a bad parody.
now his blog is named "the McCain Report". Even Colbert must've taken a double take when hearing about that one.
And, as if that weren't enough, the subtitle is "A Blog You Can Believe In"?? Really?
I already feel sorry for McCain, but his campaign is on the verge of leaving surreal and simply becoming sad.
McCain is stealing from Obama? Obama is not original “change” was used in both Carter and Mondale’s campaign, not to mention “Yes, we can” is a blatant rip-off of Bush’s Yes, America Can!
1976 Jimmy Carter - A Leader, For a Change
1984 Walter Mondale - America Needs a Change
2004 George W. Bush - Yes, America Can!
Obama uses the symbol of the rising sun, supposedly to represent hope.
Japan is known as "The Land of the Rising Sun" and the “rising sun” flag is the military flag of Japan. So, this symbol may be new to the US, but not a new symbol. It doesn’t show respect to the US disparaging our flag and recreating another countries emblem.
So, now Obama is only allowed to use traces of the flag in his emblem?
McCain may also be using the stripes of the flag, but at least he’s not disrespecting it!
Naomi Keys and others like her have hit the nail on the head.
It reminds me of Japans rising sun logo...hate to even see it because it reminds me of what will happen to the us if OBAMA is elected.
I'm tired of the disrespect that the dems. have for others. Hollywood, Oprah and the media are winning this for Obama. If Obama was dragged through the mud like they have TRIED to do to Palin he would have them prosecuted. Check with St.Louis,Mo. prosecuters.
Obama is a socialist and I do not care to have a socialist country. All of you who plan to vote for Obama need to check it out good before voting because you will switch to the other side once HE is elected...Please as a free American, that wants to stay FREE VOTE FOR McCAIN-PALIN.
Naomi Keys and others like her have hit the nail on the head.
It reminds me of Japans rising sun logo...hate to even see it because it reminds me of what will happen to the us if OBAMA is elected.
I'm tired of the disrespect that the dems. have for others. Hollywood, Oprah and the media are winning this for Obama. If Obama was dragged through the mud like they have TRIED to do to Palin he would have them prosecuted. Check with St.Louis,Mo. prosecuters.
Obama is a socialist and I do not care to have a socialist country. All of you who plan to vote for Obama need to check it out good before voting because you will switch to the other side once HE is elected...Please as a free American, that wants to stay FREE VOTE FOR McCAIN-PALIN.
KEEP THE UNITED STATES FREE VOTE MCCAIN-PLAIN...