Obama: Tap Strategic Petroleum Reserve
Speaking right now in Lansing, MI, Barack Obama suggests for the first time that Strategic Petroleum Reserve should be tapped:
"We should sell 70 million barrels of oil from our Strategic Petroleum Reserve for less expensive crude, which in the past has lowered gas prices within two weeks. Over the next five years, we should also lease more of the National Petroleum Reserve in Alaska for oil and gas production. And we should also tap more of our substantial natural gas reserves and work with the Canadian government to finally build the Alaska Natural Gas Pipeline, delivering clean natural gas and creating good jobs in the process."
His full speech is available after the jump.
Remarks of Senator Barack Obama
New Energy for America
Michigan State University
Monday, August 4th, 2008
Lansing, Michigan
As Prepared for Delivery
We meet at a moment when this country is facing a set of challenges greater than any we’ve seen in generations. Right now, our brave men and women in uniform are fighting two different wars while terrorists plot their next attack. Our changing climate is placing our planet in peril. Our economy is in turmoil and our families are struggling with rising costs and falling incomes; with lost jobs and lost homes and lost faith in the American Dream. And for too long, our leaders in Washington have been unwilling or unable to do anything about it.
That is why this election could be the most important of our lifetime. When it comes to our economy, our security, and the very future of our planet, the choices we make in November and over the next few years will shape the next decade, if not the century. And central to all of these major challenges is the question of what we will do about our addiction to foreign oil.
Without a doubt, this addiction is one of the most dangerous and urgent threats this nation has ever faced – from the gas prices that are wiping out your paychecks and straining businesses to the jobs that are disappearing from this state; from the instability and terror bred in the Middle East to the rising oceans and record drought and spreading famine that could engulf our planet.
It’s also a threat that goes to the very heart of who we are as a nation, and who we will be. Will we be the generation that leaves our children a planet in decline, or a world that is clean, and safe, and thriving? Will we allow ourselves to be held hostage to the whims of tyrants and dictators who control the world’s oil wells? Or will we control our own energy and our own destiny? Will America watch as the clean energy jobs and industries of the future flourish in countries like Spain, Japan, or Germany? Or will we create them here, in the greatest country on Earth, with the most talented, productive workers in the world?
As Americans, we know the answers to these questions. We know that we cannot sustain a future powered by a fuel that is rapidly disappearing. Not when we purchase $700 million worth of oil every single day from some the world’s most unstable and hostile nations – Middle Eastern regimes that will control nearly all of the world’s oil by 2030. Not when the rapid growth of countries like China and India mean that we’re consuming more of this dwindling resource faster than we ever imagined. We know that we can’t sustain this kind of future.
But we also know that we’ve been talking about this issue for decades. We’ve heard promises about energy independence from every single President since Richard Nixon. We’ve heard talk about curbing the use of fossil fuels in State of the Union addresses since the oil embargo of 1973.
Back then, we imported about a third of our oil. Now, we import more than half. Back then, global warming was the theory of a few scientists. Now, it is a fact that is melting our glaciers and setting off dangerous weather patterns as we speak. Then, the technology and innovation to create new sources of clean, affordable, renewable energy was a generation away. Today, you can find it in the research labs of this university and in the design centers of this state’s legendary auto industry. It’s in the chemistry labs that are laying the building blocks for cheaper, more efficient solar panels, and it’s in the re-born factories that are churning out more wind turbines every day all across this country.
Despite all this, here we are, in another election, still talking about our oil addiction; still more dependent than ever. Why?
You won’t hear me say this too often, but I couldn’t agree more with the explanation that Senator McCain offered a few weeks ago. He said, “Our dangerous dependence on foreign oil has been thirty years in the making, and was caused by the failure of politicians in Washington to think long-term about the future of the country.”
What Senator McCain neglected to mention was that during those thirty years, he was in Washington for twenty-six of them. And in all that time, he did little to reduce our dependence on foreign oil. He voted against increased fuel efficiency standards and opposed legislation that included tax credits for more efficient cars. He voted against renewable sources of energy. Against clean biofuels. Against solar power. Against wind power. Against an energy bill that – while far from perfect – represented the largest investment in renewable sources of energy in the history of this country. So when Senator McCain talks about the failure of politicians in Washington to do anything about our energy crisis, it’s important to remember that he’s been a part of that failure. Now, after years of inaction, and in the face of public frustration over rising gas prices, the only energy proposal he’s really promoting is more offshore drilling – a position he recently adopted that has become the centerpiece of his plan, and one that will not make a real dent in current gas prices or meet the long-term challenge of energy independence.
George Bush’s own Energy Department has said that if we opened up new areas to drilling today, we wouldn’t see a single drop of oil for seven years. Seven years. And Senator McCain knows that, which is why he admitted that his plan would only provide “psychological” relief to consumers. He also knows that if we opened up and drilled on every single square inch of our land and our shores, we would still find only three percent of the world’s oil reserves. Three percent for a country that uses 25% of the world's oil. Even Texas oilman Boone Pickens, who’s calling for major new investments in alternative energy, has said, “this is one emergency we can’t drill our way out of.”
Now, increased domestic oil exploration certainly has its place as we make our economy more fuel-efficient and transition to other, renewable, American-made sources of energy. But it is not the solution. It is a political answer of the sort Washington has given us for three decades.
There are genuine ways in which we can provide some short-term relief from high gas prices – relief to the mother who’s cutting down on groceries because of gas prices, or the man I met in Pennsylvania who lost his job and can’t even afford to drive around and look for a new one. I believe we should immediately give every working family in America a $1,000 energy rebate, and we should pay for it with part of the record profits that the oil companies are making right now.
I also believe that in the short-term, as we transition to renewable energy, we can and should increase our domestic production of oil and natural gas. But we should start by telling the oil companies to drill on the 68 million acres they currently have access to but haven’t touched. And if they don’t, we should require them to give up their leases to someone who will. We should invest in the technology that can help us recover more from existing oil fields, and speed up the process of recovering oil and gas resources in shale formations in Montana and North Dakota; Texas and Arkansas and in parts of the West and Central Gulf of Mexico. We should sell 70 million barrels of oil from our Strategic Petroleum Reserve for less expensive crude, which in the past has lowered gas prices within two weeks. Over the next five years, we should also lease more of the National Petroleum Reserve in Alaska for oil and gas production. And we should also tap more of our substantial natural gas reserves and work with the Canadian government to finally build the Alaska Natural Gas Pipeline, delivering clean natural gas and creating good jobs in the process.
But the truth is, none of these steps will come close to seriously reducing our energy dependence in the long-term. We simply cannot pretend, as Senator McCain does, that we can drill our way out of this problem. We need a much bolder and much bigger set of solutions. We have to make a serious, nationwide commitment to developing new sources of energy and we have to do it right away.
Last week, Washington finally made some progress on this. A group of Democrat and Republican Senators sat down and came up with a compromise on energy that includes many of the proposals I’ve worked on as a Senator and many of the steps I’ve been calling for on this campaign. It’s a plan that would invest in renewable fuels and batteries for fuel-efficient cars, help automakers re-tool, and make a real investment in renewable sources of energy.
Like all compromises, this one has its drawbacks. It includes a limited amount of new offshore drilling, and while I still don’t believe that’s a particularly meaningful short-term or long-term solution, I am willing to consider it if it’s necessary to actually pass a comprehensive plan. I am not interested in making the perfect the enemy of the good – particularly since there is so much good in this compromise that would actually reduce our dependence on foreign oil.
And yet, while the compromise is a good first step and a good faith effort, I believe that we must go even further, and here’s why – breaking our oil addiction is one of the greatest challenges our generation will ever face. It will take nothing less than a complete transformation of our economy. This transformation will be costly, and given the fiscal disaster we will inherit from the last Administration, it will likely require us to defer some other priorities.
It is also a transformation that will require more than just a few government programs. Energy independence will require an all-hands-on-deck effort from America – effort from our scientists and entrepreneurs; from businesses and from every American citizen. Factories will have to re-tool and re-design. Businesses will need to find ways to emit less carbon dioxide. All of us will need to buy more of the fuel-efficient cars built by this state, and find new ways to improve efficiency and save energy in our own homes and businesses.
This will not be easy. And it will not happen overnight. And if anyone tries to tell you otherwise, they are either fooling themselves or trying to fool you.
But I know we can do this. We can do this because we are Americans. We do the improbable. We beat great odds. We rally together to meet whatever challenge stands in our way. That’s what we’ve always done – and it’s what we must do now. For the sake of our economy, our security, and the future of our planet, we must end the age of oil in our time.
Creating a new energy economy isn’t just a challenge to meet, it’s an opportunity to seize – an opportunity that will create new businesses, new industries, and millions of new jobs. Jobs that pay well. Jobs that can’t be outsourced. Good, union jobs. For a state that has lost so many and struggled so much in recent years, this is an opportunity to rebuild and revive your economy. As your wonderful Governor has said, “Any time you pick up a newspaper and see the terms ‘climate change’ or ‘global warming,’ just think: ‘jobs for Michigan.’” You are seeing the potential already. Already, there are 50,000 jobs in your clean energy sector and 300 companies. But now is the time to accelerate that growth, both here and across the nation.
If I am President, I will immediately direct the full resources of the federal government and the full energy of the private sector to a single, overarching goal – in ten years, we will eliminate the need for oil from the entire Middle East and Venezuela. To do this, we will invest $150 billion over the next ten years and leverage billions more in private capital to build a new energy economy that harnesses American energy and creates five million new American jobs.
There are three major steps I will take to achieve this goal – steps that will yield real results by the end of my first term in office.
First, we will help states like Michigan build the fuel-efficient cars we need, and we will get one million 150 mile-per-gallon plug-in hybrids on our roads within six years.
I know how much the auto industry and the auto workers of this state have struggled over the last decade or so. But I also know where I want the fuel-efficient cars of tomorrow to be built – not in Japan, not in China, but right here in the United States of America. Right here in the state of Michigan.
We can do this. When I arrived in Washington, I reached across the aisle to come up with a plan to raise the mileage standards in our cars for the first time in thirty years – a plan that won support from Democrats and Republicans who had never supported raising fuel standards before. I also led the bipartisan effort to invest in the technology necessary to build plug-in hybrid cars.
As President, I will accelerate those efforts to meet our urgent need. With technology we have on the shelf today, we will raise our fuel mileage standards four percent every year. We’ll invest more in the research and development of those plug-in hybrids, specifically focusing on the battery technology. We’ll leverage private sector funding to bring these cars directly to American consumers, and we’ll give consumers a $7,000 tax credit to buy these vehicles. But most importantly, I’ll provide $4 billion in loans and tax credits to American auto plants and manufacturers so that they can re-tool their factories and build these cars. That’s how we’ll not only protect our auto industry and our auto workers, but help them thrive in a 21st century economy.
What’s more, these efforts will lead to an explosion of innovation here in Michigan. At the turn of the 20th century, there were literally hundreds of car companies offering a wide choice of steam vehicles and gas engines. I believe we are entering a similar era of expanding consumer choices, from higher mileage cars, to new electric entrants like GM’s Volt, to flex fuel cars and trucks powered by biofuels and driven by Michigan innovation.
The second step I’ll take is to require that 10% of our energy comes from renewable sources by the end of my first term – more than double what we have now. To meet these goals, we will invest more in the clean technology research and development that’s occurring in labs and research facilities all across the country and right here at MSU, where you’re working with farm owners to develop this state’s wind potential and developing nanotechnology that will make solar cells cheaper.
I’ll also extend the Production Tax Credit for five years to encourage the production of renewable energy like wind power, solar power, and geothermal energy. It was because of this credit that wind power grew 45% last year, the largest growth in history. Experts have said that Michigan has the second best potential for wind generation and production in the entire country. And as the world’s largest producer of the material that makes solar panels work, this tax credit would also help states like Michigan grow solar industries that are already creating hundreds of new jobs.
We’ll also invest federal resources, including tax incentives and government contracts, into developing next generation biofuels. By 2022, I will make it a goal to have 6 billion gallons of our fuel come from sustainable, affordable biofuels and we’ll make sure that we have the infrastructure to deliver that fuel in place. Here in Michigan, you’re actually a step ahead of the game with your first-ever commercial cellulosic ethanol plant, which will lead the way by turning wood into clean-burning fuel. It’s estimated that each new advanced biofuels plant can add up to 120 jobs, expand a local town’s tax base by $70 million per year, and boost local household income by $6.7 million annually.
In addition, we’ll find safer ways to use nuclear power and store nuclear waste. And we’ll invest in the technology that will allow us to use more coal, America’s most abundant energy source, with the goal of creating five “first-of-a-kind” coal-fired demonstration plants with carbon capture and sequestration.
Of course, too often, the problem is that all of this new energy technology never makes it out of the lab and onto the market because there’s too much risk and too much cost involved in starting commercial-scale clean energy businesses. So we will remove some of this cost and this risk by directing billions in loans and capital to entrepreneurs who are willing to create clean energy businesses and clean energy jobs right here in America.
As we develop new sources of energy and electricity, we will also need to modernize our national utility grid so that it’s accommodating to new sources of power, more efficient, and more reliable. That’s an investment that will also create hundreds of thousands of jobs, and one that I will make as President.
Finally, the third step I will take is to call on businesses, government, and the American people to meet the goal of reducing our demand for electricity 15% by the end of the next decade. This is by far the fastest, easiest, and cheapest way to reduce our energy consumption – and it will save us $130 billion on our energy bills.
Since DuPont implemented an energy efficiency program in 1990, the company has significantly reduced its pollution and cut its energy bills by $3 billion. The state of California has implemented such a successful efficiency strategy that while electricity consumption grew 60% in this country over the last three decades, it didn’t grow at all in California.
There is no reason America can’t do the same thing. We will set a goal of making our new buildings 50% more efficient over the next four years. And we’ll follow the lead of California and change the way utilities make money so that their profits aren’t tied to how much energy we use, but how much energy we save.
In just ten years, these steps will produce enough renewable energy to replace all the oil we import from the Middle East. Along with the cap-and-trade program I’ve proposed, we will reduce our dangerous carbon emissions 80% by 2050 and slow the warming of our planet. And we will create five million new jobs in the process.
If these sound like far-off goals, just think about what we can do in the next few years. One million plug-in hybrid cars on the road. Doubling our energy from clean, renewable sources like wind power or solar power and 2 billion gallons of affordable biofuels. New buildings that 50% more energy efficient.
So there is a real choice in this election – a choice about what kind of future we want for this country and this planet.
Senator McCain would not take the steps or achieve the goals that I outlined today. His plan invests very little in renewable sources of energy and he’s opposed helping the auto industry re-tool. Like George Bush and Dick Cheney before him, he sees more drilling as the answer to all of our energy problems, and like them, he’s found a receptive audience in the very same oil companies that have blocked our progress for so long. In fact, he raised more than one million dollars from big oil just last month, most of which came after he announced his plan for offshore drilling in a room full of cheering oil executives. His initial reaction to the bipartisan energy compromise was to reject it because it took away tax breaks for oil companies. And even though he doesn’t want to spend much on renewable energy, he’s actually proposed giving $4 billion more in tax breaks to the biggest oil companies in America – including $1.2 billion to Exxon-Mobil.
This is a corporation that just recorded the largest profit in the history of the United States. . This is the company that, last quarter, made $1,500 every second. That’s more than $300,000 in the time it takes you to fill up a tank with gas that’s costing you more than $4-a-gallon. And Senator McCain not only wants them to keep every dime of that money, he wants to give them more.
So make no mistake – the oil companies have placed their bet on Senator McCain, and if he wins, they will continue to cash in while our families and our economy suffer and our future is put in jeopardy.
Well that’s not the future I see for America. I will not pretend the goals I laid out today aren’t ambitious. They are. I will not pretend we can achieve them without cost, or without sacrifice, or without the contribution of almost every American citizen.
But I will say that these goals are possible. And I will say that achieving them is absolutely necessary if we want to keep America safe and prosperous in the 21st century.
I want you all to think for a minute about the next four years, and even the next ten years. We can continue down the path we’ve been traveling. We can keep making small, piece-meal investments in renewable energy and keep sending billions of our hard-earned dollars to oil company executives and Middle Eastern dictators. We can watch helplessly as the price of gas rises and falls because of some foreign crisis we have no control over, and uncover every single barrel of oil buried beneath this country only to realize that we don’t have enough for a few years, let alone a century. We can watch other countries create the industries and the jobs that will fuel our future, and leave our children a planet that grows more dangerous and unlivable by the day.
Or we can choose another future. We can decide that we will face the realities of the 21st century by building a 21st century economy. In just a few years, we can watch cars that run on a plug-in battery come off the same assembly lines that once produced the first Ford and the first Chrysler. We can see shuttered factories open their doors to manufacturers that sell wind turbines and solar panels that will power our homes and our businesses. We can watch as millions of new jobs with good pay and good benefits are created for American workers, and we can take pride as the technologies, and discoveries, and industries of the future flourish in the United States of America. We can lead the world, secure our nation, and meet our moral obligations to future generations.
This is the choice that we face in the months ahead. This is the challenge we must meet. This is the opportunity we must seize – and this may be our last chance to seize it.
And if it seems too difficult or improbable, I ask you to think about the struggles and the challenges that past generations have overcome. Think about how World War II forced us to transform a peacetime economy still climbing out of Depression into an Arsenal of Democracy that could wage war across three continents. And when President Roosevelt’s advisors informed him that his goals for wartime production were impossible to meet, he waved them off and said “believe me, the production people can do it if they really try.” And they did.
Think about when the scientists and engineers told John F. Kennedy that they had no idea how to put a man on the moon, he told them they would find a way. And we found one. Remember how we trained a generation for a new, industrial economy by building a nationwide system of public high schools; how we laid down railroad tracks and highways across an entire continent; how we pushed the boundaries of science and technology to unlock the very building blocks of human life.
I ask you to draw hope from the improbable progress this nation has made and look to the future with confidence that we too can meet the great test of our time. I ask you to join me, in November and in the years to come, to ensure that we will not only control our own energy, but once again control our own destiny, and forge a new and better future for the country that we love. Thank you.
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flipping again. ok, let me get this logic straight. releasing 70 million barrels from reserves will drop the prices but drilling for billions of barrels won't. at least they've figured a little bit out about supply and demand. also, how is taxing big oil going to create more oil and drop prices. IT WON'T. they'll pass those taxes off to us. increase supply reduce the price.
>>>releasing 70 million barrels from reserves will drop the prices but drilling for billions of barrels won't
Just goes to prove your lack of understanding.
The SPR is filled with oil that can be released to the market immediately.
Drilling would take 10 years to get the first drop (after exploring, test wells, developing a transportation regime, etc etc etc) and would cost the gas companies a tremendous amount of money. Which means, raising the gas prices.
But you knew that, right daniel?
i know the oil could be released immediately and i'm all for it but 70 million is only a temporary band aid to cover a wound that can only be healed by doing everything we can which includes releasing reserves, DRILLING HERE, windmills, green cars, everything. Get pelosi out of the way so we can drill.
It wouldn't take 10 years to get a drop. that's just a liberal lie. also, if clinton hadn't vetoed drilling in the ANWAR, we wouldn't be in this shape right now.
>>>It wouldn't take 10 years to get a drop. that's just a liberal lie.
Gee, another baseless, factless assertion from daniel. SHOCKER!
U.S. Department of the Interior - Minerals Management Service (Feb 2006):
"""There are long lead times needed for exploration and development of OCS oil and gas resources, especially in frontier areas where risks and costs are especially high. Preparing to offer oil and gas leases entails years of planning and consultation under sections 18 and 19 of the OCSLA. Once a lease sale is held, it could take five to ten years for drilling to commence. Production could take another five years or more after a discovery."""
www.mms.gov/PDFs/2005EPAct/InventoryRTC.pdf
John McCain, May 29: "But I also have to tell you, with those resources, which would take years to develop, it would only postpone or temporarily relieve our dependency on fossil fuels"
More "Liberal Lies" right? Haha.
>>>also, if clinton hadn't vetoed drilling in the ANWAR, we wouldn't be in this shape right now
Actually, if the GOP hadn't been obstructing renewable energy for a decade, we:
1) we wouldn't ever have to drill in the Arctic National WILDLIFE PRESERVE, and
2) we wouldn't be in this shape right now.
just heard a clip of Obama himself on Hanity saying it would take 7 years to get oil (not 10) and now he's willing to compromise on drilling. surprise, surprise!!
Mmkay! Thank you daniel for the great, informed response to my shooting down your whole argument!
DIRECT FROM FOX NEWS! Known for their accuracy and lack of bias. Hahaha.
McCain is in the pocket of BIG oil. They are bribing him since he flipflopped on offshore oil drilling.
While common man is suffering McCain is giving new $10 billion tax break to big oil.
Checkout below how corrupt McCain is. He signs off on offshore drilling and then gets thousands from big oil right away. According to TMP (tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com):
Hess Oil Corporation "Office Manager" And Her Husband Both Gave $28,500 To Elect McCain
As we reported below, ten Hess Corporation executives and Hess family members each gave $28,500 to the RNC's committee to elect John McCain president, just days after he reversed his previous opposition to offshore drilling.
But the story gets better.
It turns out that Hess executives aren't the only ones who gave such huge sums to elect McCain -- generosity towards McCain apparently extends down into lower levels of Hess staff. A lower level employee gave the same, too, and so did her husband, even though he works for Amtrak.
The FEC filings show that Alice Rocchio, who's identified as a Hess office manager, and her husband, Pasquale Rocchio, who's described as an Amtrak "track foreman," each separately donated $28,500 to the RNC-McCain fund, which is called McCain Victory 2008. They gave the money on June 24th, the same day that the ten Hess execs and family members each shelled out the same amount.
So the Rocchios, who live in Flushing, Queens, donated a total of $57,000 to McCain's efforts.
I just reached Ms Rocchio and she insisted adamantly that the contributions were theirs.
"It was my option to give," she told me. "This is my favorite candidate...I fully acknowledge that [the donation] was done by myself personally, my own doing." She added that the same went for her husband.
When I pointed out that the Rocchios' job titles seemed to jar a bit with the size of their donations, Ms. Rocchio said that no one could guess the real income levels of other people.
"No one knows what someone's income taxes say," she told me.
Ms. Rocchio declined to say whether the contributions had been bundled by another Hess employee or who bundled them.
Late Update: It should also be noted that FEC reports have no record of any Federal political contributions for the Rocchios before 2008. They both gave the maximum of $2,300 to McCain's campaign this year.
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Corrupt bastards!
from CNN: obama flip flopping his views on drilling. i didn't even have to use FOX news.
http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2008/08/04/obama-flip-flop-on-offshore-drilling/
Avoiding oil is no answer - plug-ins won't make a dent in oil consumption for many years. Claiming otherwise is pure fraud. And what exactly is Obama vowing to throw money at, or does he eevn know? GM and all automakers know how to make a plug-in hybrid - that's easy - what they don't have is a practical cheap battery. Vague promises to "help plug-in technology" are nonsensical attempt to garner votes, not to do anything constructive. And exactly what does Obama think he is going to accomplish by wasting taxpayer money converting cars into plug-ins, using unproven technology that doesn't, at this point, even exist in most cases, and when it does is exorbitantly expensive? We have tens of thousand sof folks lined up for the first 10,000 GM Volt plug-ins to come off the assembly line -
Obama's claim that we need to waste money of Fed car plug-in conversions in order to xreate public demand is as brainless and ignorant statement as I've seen in many years. Pure politics.
Ah. CNN. SO much better! The "liberal media" hahaha.
How about doing your own, oh ya know, RESEARCH. THINKING.
from ethan:
Actually, if the GOP hadn't been obstructing renewable energy for a decade, we:
1) we wouldn't ever have to drill in the Arctic National WILDLIFE PRESERVE, and
2) we wouldn't be in this shape right now.
Gee, another baseless, factless assertion from ethan. SHOCKER!
Prove your points above.
if our country is so oppressed by the GOP and they are in the pocket of big oil and they are keeping us from having alternative fuel sources, then why hasn't any other country invented these so called "green" vehicles? seems like the best think out there is a toyota prius. i'd like to see you hook a prius up to a tractor trailer.
>>>then why hasn't any other country invented these so called "green" vehicles?
Are you frigging kidding me?
Have you ever heard of a flex-fuel car?
Brazil has.
As of 2007, 71.9% of all cars are flex-fuel.
You really didn't know that about Brazil? Where have you been? Oh right watching Fox News and CNN!
Please read these daniel:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flexible-fuel_vehicle#Flexible-fuel_vehicles_in_Brazil
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethanol_fuel_in_Brazil
Sustainable fuels, energy conservation, green economy. Joke about Prius, but these issues are just sitting there waiting for us to reap the benefits. Waiting for real leadership.
i'm all for flex fuel if it comes up through the free market and not forced on us. there are already many flex fuel cars being produced by American car manufacturers. there are drawbacks to flex fuel (ethanol), however; it takes a lot of energy to produce, it is less fuel efficient but it is lower on carbon emmisions. you also have to factor in U.S. ethanol, which is made from corn, costs at least 30% more than Brazil's product because the starch in corn must be first turned into sugar before distilled into alcohol. (ok, i copied that last statement from yaleglobal.yale.edu.)
so if flex fuel is the wave of the future, i'm all for it.
ethan, you're assuming, incorrectly, i'm against all this and that i'm a big McCain / Bush fan. i'm for getting America self sufficient and i think we should be doing everything possible, including drilling and alternative energy.
i'm all for flex fuel if it comes up through the free market and not forced on us. there are already many flex fuel cars being produced by American car manufacturers. there are drawbacks to flex fuel (ethanol), however; it takes a lot of energy to produce, it is less fuel efficient but it is lower on carbon emmisions. you also have to factor in U.S. ethanol, which is made from corn, costs at least 30% more than Brazil's product because the starch in corn must be first turned into sugar before distilled into alcohol. (ok, i copied that last statement from yaleglobal.yale.edu.)
so if flex fuel is the wave of the future, i'm all for it.
ethan, you're assuming, incorrectly, i'm against all this and that i'm a big McCain / Bush fan. i'm for getting America self sufficient and i think we should be doing everything possible, including drilling and alternative energy.
Actually flex fuel cars are sold in the USA, but we do not have an ethanol infrastructure as they do in Brazil, which took them over 15 years to develop. Also our corn produced ethanol is problematic in that it produces less energy than the sugar cane ethanol produced in Brazil, it is causing problems in our food supply as more farmers shift from producing corn for food to energy, and producing ethanol from corn is ecologically bad as we as a nation are forced to use more fossil fuels to produce the ethanol.
Speaking of drilling off shore for new oil, there are areas that could be producing within a year according to Senator Mary Landrieu, democrat-Louisiana. These are areas in the gulf where the oil industry has the infrastructure in place. Lastly, taking from the strategic petroleum reserves is a band aid that will do little. Only a third of what is in the reserves is sweet crude which is used for the production of gasoline. Of the 21 billion barrels of crude we consume about 45% what we consume in gasoline. So essentially there is 30 days of oil to go for gasoline. What happens next? We'll have to build up the oil reserve again which will cause more demand for oil and of course oil prices shoot up. The better idea is to find more sources to increase supply. By the way there are cars in Europe that get 50 plus miles to the gallon - much better than those flex-fuel cars - and they are clean burning diesels. You ought to check it out.
It is pretty obvious that the oil companies support McCain more than Obama but he is not above taking from them. While oil companies cannot legally contribute folks who work for them can and Obama has taken from the oil company folk. Check out a unbiased web site http://www.factcheck.org/ there are two oil articles - one on McCain and one on Obama. So are they both corrupt. As an aside my dad (passed away 13 years ago) was from Chicago and he used to say anyone coming out of Chicago in politics was dirty and corrupt. So using Brett's logic maybe he is?
>>>i'm for getting America self sufficient and i think we should be doing everything possible, including drilling and alternative energy
You insist on mocking me for choosing a car that gets more than 50 mpg. You insist on mocking Barack Obama for basically extending an olive branch to the Republican Party (while they drag HIS name through the mud). Frankly, I don't believe you.
This Presidential election has become a lesson in how to ridicule the most important decision in our country.
And it shows, based on how impossible it is to have an informed discussion with people on the Right.
I am glad you have started to do a little research on flex-fuel, but I don't believe that you care about alternative energy any more than I believe Congressmembers in the GOP who say the exact same thing and then hold the ENTIRE U.S. Congress hostage to offshore drilling.
Here is the choice:
We have a Senator who would give $1000 to regular Americans to make up for the price of gas and work to invest in green jobs and a green economy.
And then we have a candidate who opposes drilling, and then comes out in favor of drilling on June 16th and then receives -- within a week -- almost $300k in campaign contributions from A GIANT OIL COMPANY.
J. Barclay Collins -- Hess Corp. -- Attorney -- $28,500 -- 19-Jun
John B. Hess -- Hess Corp. -- Executive -- $28,500 -- 24-Jun
Susan K. Hess -- Homemaker -- Homemaker -- $28,500 -- 24-Jun
Norma W. Hess -- Retired -- Retired -- $28,500 -- 24-Jun
John J. O'Connor -- Hess Corp. -- Executive -- $28,500 -- 24-Jun
Lawrence Ornstein -- Hess Corp. -- Senior VP -- $28,500 -- 24-Jun
John Reilly -- Hess Corp. -- Executive -- $28,500 -- 24-Jun
Alice Rocchio -- Hess Corp. -- Office Manager -- $28,500 -- 24-Jun
John Scelfo -- Hess Corp. -- Senior VP of Finance -- $28,500 -- 24-Jun
F. Borden Walker -- Hess Corp. -- Businessman -- $28,500 -- 24-Jun
Those numbers are facts. The dates are facts.
Elections in the United States should be based on FACTS and not puerile, juvenile, ad hominem attacks.
Btw, daniel, you talk about not having things "forced on you" by the government. You want an example of something that -- like Obama's plan for plug-in hybrid batteries -- started as a government project, was then invested in by the Federal govt, and was then mass-produced for the free market?
Answer?
The Internet.
What a disaster THAT became, right? Govt is bad. Govt is scary. It turns you into a SOCIALIST... Or it changes the entire world for the better.
I urge everybody to elect Barack Obama. Help change America for the better.
John McCain has received two million dollars from the oil industry, and now he want to give them a four Billion dollars tax break, when they are raking- in record profits on the shoulders of America. So, John McCain said, “Our dangerous dependence on foreign oil has been thirty years in the making, and was caused by the failure of politicians in Washington to think long-term about the future of the country.” What John McCain neglected to mention was that during those thirty years, he was in Washington for twenty-six of them. And in all that time, he did little to reduce our dependence on foreign oil. Not to mention, that out of the last twenty eight years, twenty of those years, our nation energy policies were manipulated by an oil man in the Whitehouse representing his party interest (George Sr.12 years. George Jr.8 years) that have all but destroyed our Country.
Here is some straight talk. When John McCain was running in the Republican primary he never mention or addressed anything about this nation energy problems. After the primary, he saw that Barack Obama energy position along with his other ideas was getting footage so he flip-flopped, and quickly turned into Mitt Romney. The Straight Talk express at its best. Although Jack Cafferty is one of my favorite reporters in the media today, they are wrong! So here my question to you: Why do Jack Cafferty and others in the news media find it so amusing to report on Barack Obama supposedly flip-flopping and gaffes, when John McCain have twisted on more issues to have started a tornado with his silly shenanigans, then any Politician in recent history beside Mitt Romney, not to mention his long list of gaffes. Yet, they fail to give equal negative coverage. Can I be sensing media bias? After all, Barack Obama has received 72% negative coverage, when they have reported on him. WHY? America has to stop acting like they don't know the difference between right and wrong. Thus, John McCain campaign is represented by lies instead of real ideas and he has a serious character issues to say the least!
Finally, there are those who say that John McCain’s new ad depicts Barack Obama as trying to present himself as a messiah, well I beg to differ. I believe that John McCain new ad tries to depict Barack Obama as being as old as Moses, when John McCain himself is old enough to have been Moses childhood buddy!
ENEMIES OF AMERICA would like nothing better than for us to have a bunch of inept politicians, like Obama, Pelosi and Reid, pushing us to squander our strategic oil reserves ... so that if they close the straights of Hormuz, we wouldn't have any emergency oil to use. Are these the kind of leaders you want to protect us, and keep America strong? The liberal's idea of globalization only works when the countries they are pandering to either meet us half way, or abandon their goals to destroy us. In additionl, we don’t even know if the ‘other things’ that are supposed to bring us alternative energy will be cost effective, or even work. However, I agree that we must move forward with development of alternative energy ASAP … but, in the meantime, this entire country runs on oil. And, I’m not just talking about us consumers at the pump, I’m talking about how everything we use, eat, wear, etc. … how it all gets to market, and eventually to us. We have to drill more, if even as a transition until alternate fuels are developed, But, aside from the cost at the pump for consumers, the bigger issue still is our national security. Drilling oil on our own land insures us energy independence, which will stop us from total dependence on countries who don’t like us … and from countries we’ve been sending tens of billions of dollars to every year. We must drill ASAP. The politicians who tell you different are simply placing petty party politics above the prosperity and security of America. Obama’s policies are just one example of what can happen when a bunch of inexperienced, but exuberant followers blindly follow an inexperienced, incompetent charismatic leader, who thinks he’s the second coming, off the cliff. Hunger is not enough of a justification to eat the goose that lays the golden eggs … or, eventually everyone will starve. If Obama, with his socialistic redistribution of wealth scams wins, America will turn into a third world country, with massive company closures and unemployment, within a few years.
Elect a man who truly loves America, and will protect her ... elect Senator John McCain in November.
ENEMIES OF AMERICA would like nothing better than for us to have a bunch of inept politicians, like Obama, Pelosi and Reid, pushing us to squander our strategic oil reserves ... so that if they close the straights of Hormuz, we wouldn't have any emergency oil to use. Are these the kind of leaders you want to protect us, and keep America strong? The liberal's idea of globalization only works when the countries they are pandering to either meet us half way, or abandon their goals to destroy us. In additionl, we don’t even know if the ‘other things’ that are supposed to bring us alternative energy will be cost effective, or even work. However, I agree that we must move forward with development of alternative energy ASAP … but, in the meantime, this entire country runs on oil. And, I’m not just talking about us consumers at the pump, I’m talking about how everything we use, eat, wear, etc. … how it all gets to market, and eventually to us. We have to drill more, if even as a transition until alternate fuels are developed, But, aside from the cost at the pump for consumers, the bigger issue still is our national security. Drilling oil on our own land insures us energy independence, which will stop us from total dependence on countries who don’t like us … and from countries we’ve been sending tens of billions of dollars to every year. We must drill ASAP. The politicians who tell you different are simply placing petty party politics above the prosperity and security of America. Obama’s policies are just one example of what can happen when a bunch of inexperienced, but exuberant followers blindly follow an inexperienced, incompetent charismatic leader, who thinks he’s the second coming, off the cliff. Hunger is not enough of a justification to eat the goose that lays the golden eggs … or, eventually everyone will starve. If Obama, with his socialistic redistribution of wealth scams wins, America will turn into a third world country, with massive company closures and unemployment, within a few years.
Elect a man who truly loves America, and will protect her ... elect Senator John McCain in November.
Shorter Howard, McSame:
DRIIIIILLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THIS ELECTION is a referendum on leadership of the Republican Party -- George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Senators like McCain and House Reps -- and their collective utter failure on:
The Economy
Jobs
Energy
The War in Iraq
The War in Afghanistan
The War on Terror
Health Care
Upholding the Constitution
The Environment
Katrina
GOP scandals like Jack Abramoff
many more issues.
Drilling for oil is ONE TINY PART of just ONE ISSUE.
John McSame. ONE ISSUE CANDIDATE.