all pointless polls in terms of the elections. The battleground states are what matters. Electoral count heavily favors Obama.

"all pointless polls in terms of the elections. The battleground states are what matters. Electoral count heavily favors Obama.

brian | 10.08.08 09:55 AM"

And the state polls lag the national polls.

Give it a week.

Keep telling yourself that.

"all pointless polls in terms of the elections. The battleground states are what matters. Electoral count heavily favors Obama.

brian | 10.08.08 09:55 AM"

And the state polls lag the national polls.

Give it a week.

Brian, get your head out of the Dear Comrade Leader's ass and realize the states lag the national polls

Brian, get your head out of the Dear Comrade Leader's ass and realize the states lag the national polls

Brian, get your head out of the Dear Comrade Leader's ass and realize the states lag the national polls

I hope all of you Obama voters are financially secure. Many of you will be unemployed after he begins taxing our money and businesses. Remember the "Misery Index" in the Carter administration? It's coming again. 21% Interest Rates / 12% Unemployment. Save your pennies and get your resumes polished up, Obama voters.

McCain really gave me a sense of confidence in him as a leader in this debate. I suspect others got this very positive feeling too. He clearly knows how to work across the aisle while it was obvious that Obama votes strictly along party lines...not a leadership quality. And for the first time McCain exposed Obama and the Democrats on their responsibility for the sub-prime mortgage mess. Once Americans realize the Democrats culpability for the Wall Street debacle the polls will shift strongly for McCain.

Get your resumes polished??? There wont be any jobs!

If Obama gets into office, and everything goes into the tank due to high taxes and more 'services', expect a revolution.

The guys here at my work, which is a software company, are all going out to get our gun licenses and conceal/carry permits.

gun licenses and concealed carry permits won't matter because Barry O' and his bunch want to repeal the 2nd amendment. We'll all be criminals. Afterall, you can't control an armed citizen nearly as easily as an unarmed citizen.

gun licenses and concealed carry permits won't matter because Barry O' and his bunch want to repeal the 2nd amendment. We'll all be criminals. Afterall, you can't control an armed citizen nearly as easily as an unarmed citizen.

Diego/Hotline's lastest poll seems to be out of whack with Rasmussen, Gallup, Research 2000, Ipos/McClatchy which show Obama ahead nationally by 6-10%. Moreover, Diego/Hotline is contrary to the lastest round of Survey USA, Rasmussen, PPP polls out of Wisonsin, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, and Minnesota showing Obama surging THIS WEEK. The notion that these state polls are lagging national polls is erroneous, since the polling dates for these state polls are generally Sunday throught Tuesday night, just like today's Diego/Hotline poll. Of course, none of the polls reflect the impact of last night's debate.

Once more, the Diageo/Hotline poll is sharply at odds with other credible national tracking polls out there ( Gallup, Rasmussen, R2000, etc) are not showing any signs of McCain closing the gap. Either this poll is picking up a trend that somehow all the others are missing, or it is an outlier with a faulty sample for some reason.

Absent other evidence, it makes sense to believe the bulk of national (and state) polling and look at outliers like this as an interesting anomaly unless the same trend shows up elsewhere.

If this poll has Obama up by 1 point overall while the candidates are tied among men, it essentially finds only the tiniest of gender gaps. This seems strange. The 2004 exit polls showed Kerry about 15 points better among women than men. The Research 2000 tracking poll, the only one whose internals I can find at the moment, currently shows Obama a staggering 26 points better among women than men.

So why does Diageo/Hotline not find much of anything? Seems to me that the lack of a gender gap in this poll is responsible for skewing it towards McCain.

Movement conservative, as recently as 10 years ago, seemed poised to dominate American politics for the long run. After 8 years of Bush, however, it seems hopelessly out of touch -- as evidenced by the posters above -- wallowing in various paranoid delusions. The record of movement conservatism, as manifested by Bush in the WH, is the mistaken war in Iraq, which led to neglect of Afganistan, the destruction of our government's ability to function effectively because of the appointment of incompetent hacks to important positions (FEMA and Katrina),
turning surpluses as far as the eye can see into deficits as far as the eye can see, attacks on key elements of international law (the Geneva Convention), assaults on basic constitutional principles (habeus corpus), extensive efforts to evade responsiblity (Cheney), undermining important alliances, degrading our image in the world, and -- as if Bush had not already gotten a lock on the title of worst President ever -- the most significant financial crisis and credit collapse since the Great Depression. If anybody had predicted Bush would be this bad 8 years ago, they would have been dismissed as a nut. Somehow, this is one case where the reality was much worse than anybody's worst fears. Eventually, the outlying elements of Hotlines tracking poll will cycle out and Obama will be ahead again. But, the movement conservative dead enders who posted above can have a few days to indulge their fantasies about McCain having a chance. Even old John now realizes the game is up, and, while he'll do his best, even he knows his dream of the Presidency, along with movement conservatism, is fading fast

Mark, where in the world do you get your information? Obama's tax plan will cut taxes for anyone earning less than $200,000, and leave them untouched for those who earn btween $200,00 and $250,000. What part of this don't you understand?

If John McCain and Sarah Palin told you a million times that it would be safe to jump off the Golden Gate Bridge, would you believe it? Of course not. So when they tell you the same "tax-and-spend" lie about Obama a million times, why do you believe it? (Unless you are among the 5% whose income is greater than $250,000, in which case you SHOULD pay more in taxes -- no sympathy here.)

This is not a rant on my part -- I honestly don't understand where you are getting your information. It is simply not the truth that Obama will raise taxes, except on those who are wealthiest and most aboe to afford it. (They are also the people who have had the biggest benefit from Bush's reduction of the capital gains tax rate, so it is hard to see the unfairness of a plan that would require the top 5% to pony up a larger share of income tax to provide the government with desperately needed revenue.)

Thanks.

It's coming again. 21% Interest Rates / 12% Unemployment. Save your pennies and get your resumes polished up, Obama voters.

mark | 10.08.08 10:02 AM

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What makes you think most Obama voters work?

I think it's all in perspective. This election year is like none other, that I've ever seen in my lifetime. The obvious bias by the msm's. Even the pollsters have admitted bias, by using more Dems in their polls, to sway the numbers.

I'm not saying McCain will win, but the most blatant , and obvious tactics that have been used by the Democratic party, and Obama's campaign are unmistakable, and speak volumes. The man can't win on his own merits. He, the party, and his campaign know this. That's why for months the polls were so close, and now he seems to be taking off. ACORN has helped this along, me thinks.

This entire election is a scam. Time will tell though!

National Journal who runs this lame poll are reTHUGlican trolls just like most of the posters here..

This poll apparently re-weighted its sample a few days back, resulting in a net +3 percentage point increase in republican indetifiers. Now it could be that that was the right thing to do -- republicans might have been underrepresented before -- but the movement in this tracker is probably more attributable to changing the character of the sample than any shift in underlying opinion.

MarkW ... get serious, would you? What an asinine thing to say.

Wouldn't you prefer to be taken seriously? Well, then, post a serious point and you will be taken seriously. Enough idiocy, already.

Carter II, the terror continues.

How do you justify a sample evenly split between republicans and democrats? That sure doesn't look like any of the real data I've seen.

Cut taxes..sure. That's almost certain to happen. Oh, and for 95% of americans, too.

Taxes will be cut @ 50% as incomes fall, unemployment rises to staggeringly high levels, and interest rates increase geometrically!

Obama has a plan.

Thank goodness.

This poll is an outlier compared to recent daily polls. However, the national polls, as interesting as they are, don't matter because we elect the president in the Electoral College. The state trends are against McCain. It would be silly to say this election is over. However, McCain has to reverse the state trends or it'll be a landslide.

By the way, the state polls, which are being conducted more often as we get closer, are not necessarily lagging behind the national poll.

A plan.

The same type of planning he brought to the public school system and public housing in Chicago.

Developed with the same skills he brought to the Harvard Law Review.

With the incredible effectiveness demonstrated in the Senate.

Present!

I am still trying to figure out how only 5% of Americans can pay all the taxes, especially with all the nifty new spending plans Obama has for us. 95% of working Americans will not pay taxes? How can that be?

I am still trying to figure out how only 5% of Americans can pay all the taxes, especially with all the nifty new spending plans Obama has for us. 95% of working Americans will not pay taxes? How can that be?

I am still trying to figure out how only 5% of Americans can pay all the taxes, especially with all the nifty new spending plans Obama has for us. 95% of working Americans will not pay taxes? How can that be?

I am still trying to figure out how only 5% of Americans can pay all the taxes, especially with all the nifty new spending plans Obama has for us. 95% of working Americans will not pay taxes? How can that be?

The only nation of whiners I see are those who blame the MSM for McCain's inability to convince voters that his ideas are right for America. Frankly, I think the "MSM is biased" complaint is not founded in fact, whether the complaint is voiced from the right or the left. When reporting is backed up with attribution and demonstrable facts (whether favorable or detrimental to either side), it is difficult to argue convincingly that the MSM is biased.

Better to exchange in a contest of ideas than in demonizing anyone who does not agree with your point of view. Chances are generally good that there is at least a patch of common ground to work with, or at least from which to understand an opposing point of view.

As an American, I find it hard to believe that so many people on the left and right truly believe their counterparts are truly unpatriotic. That is silly. Everyone, save for a minuscule (and nutty) fraction of the population, deeply believes this is the greatest nation on Earth -- and I strongly suspect that everyone who posts here believes that, too.

So, let's spare the demonizing and talk seriously about issues that actually affect our lives.

The only nation of whiners I see are those who blame the MSM for McCain's inability to convince voters that his ideas are right for America. Frankly, I think the "MSM is biased" complaint is not founded in fact, whether the complaint is voiced from the right or the left. When reporting is backed up with attribution and demonstrable facts (whether favorable or detrimental to either side), it is difficult to argue convincingly that the MSM is biased.

Better to exchange in a contest of ideas than in demonizing anyone who does not agree with your point of view. Chances are generally good that there is at least a patch of common ground to work with, or at least from which to understand an opposing point of view.

As an American, I find it hard to believe that so many people on the left and right truly believe their counterparts are truly unpatriotic. That is silly. Everyone, save for a minuscule (and nutty) fraction of the population, deeply believes this is the greatest nation on Earth -- and I strongly suspect that everyone who posts here believes that, too.

So, let's spare the demonizing and talk seriously about issues that actually affect our lives.

Oops ... sorry for the double-post. My computer froze, so I clicked the "Post" key again. My apologies.

EdM: >>>95% of working Americans will not pay taxes? How can that be?

95% of working families receive tax CUTS from the current rate under Obama's plan.

You have apparently been misinformed.

Matthew,

What is the breakdown on the remaining 5% in party affiliation in your poll? What are the poll numbers for undecided and for each third party candidate?

Hey people, don't forget that Barry is a LIBERAL Democrat. Everyone's taxes will be raise in one form or another. It is what Liberal Democrats do!!!! Wake up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hey people, don't forget that Barry is a LIBERAL Democrat. Everyone's taxes will be raise in one form or another. It is what Liberal Democrats do!!!! Wake up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

EdM ... No one said 95% of all Americans will not pay taxes. And no one said the top 5% of income-earners would pay all of the taxes.

Obama's plan calls for the following:

1. Increased income taxes for those earning greater that $250,00 per year, which is the top 5% of income earners. These rates would still be no greater than the rates applicable under Ronald Reagan, by the way.

2. For the remaining 95% of the population:

(a) there would be no change at all for those earning between $200,00 and $250,000, and

(b) tax rates would be reduced for those who earn less than $200,000 per year -- which is the VAST majority of Americans.

So, to be sure, Obama is not claiming that 95% of the population would not pay taxes; he is saying that their taxes would be reduced or left at current rates. Only the top 5% would have their income tax rate increased.

I think that is a good deal for the middle class, and although the top 5% would no doubt be unhappy about it, they would be treated by Obama just as well as they were under Reagan. AND ... the country would benefit as a whole, because the Treasury desperately needs the additional revenues that would be generated.

(As an aside, I also note that government spending has ALWAYS ben the best tool to stimulate an economy in a recession or depression, so there is nothng alarming about Obama's programs.

Even McCain would have to find a way to stimulate the economy, and almost definitely would increae spending to accomplish that goal. In fact, his plan, announced in the debate last night, to allocate $300 billion in government funds to buy up bad mortgages and renegotiate terms for struggling homeowners is a massive government spending program of the sort you criticize. So, to be fair, the candidates' spending views are a pretty much a wash.

The problem here is that we are in the throes of a financial and economic meltdown that will take a long time to fix. Government spending MUST and WILL be a part of the effort. There is no avoiding it.

Barry wants to spend a trillion dollars on liberal goodies but says he will only raise INCOME taxes on the wealthiest 5% to pay for it. The rest get a small break on INCOME taxes. Now, about that PAYROLL tax that takes money out of EVERY paycheck us unlucky workers get without us ever even seeing OUR money? Get ready and bend over.

Oh, and do you have any money left in the market? How about a retirement fund? Make any profit on it and those taxes are going up. WAY up. Own a small Business? Well your corporate taxes are going WAY up as well. Remember the "marriage penalty" ? Yep, he's bringing that one back too. Take a deduction on interest paid on your mortgage? Not anymore.
But your INCOME tax RATE won't go up.
There's more in the fine print. Shall I go on? How gullible are you.

Sefton, yes, go on. It arouses me when you complain like this.

While you're arousing me, perhaps you could explain how the next three generations might pay for all of the debt the current Administration has incurred?

And ... please ... let's don't come up with a plan that calls for closing our eyes and clicking our heels together three times.

Someone here has been gullible these past two presidential elections -- and some of us saw a disaster waiting to happen. I wonder who the gullible one is.

Let's take a quick look at taxes. Obama says 95% are getting tax cuts. Is that with or wothout the 40% who do not currently pay taxes? He wants to tax the wealthy, the small businesses and corporations. He wants to tax the big oil companies.
So, when a small business gets taxed, and it's moderate profits shrink...what is the next logical step? The small business tries to lessen overhead...that would be an employee or two. So, now there are 1 or 2 extra people relying on the government for a check. Big oil companies? Do you, in your right mind, think that they are going to swallow that? YOU will pay the taxes that trickle down to the consumer.
You know Obama's description of success starting at the bottom and moving up? How many poor people do you know who have employees? Any government assistance people hiring?
If you have a book at your house go look at it's price tags. They usually feature a Canada/US price tag. Look what something costs when companies are taxed. The Canadian covers the cost of taxes applied to the paper company, publishing company, printing company etc. So, there is black and white proof of taxation on business. Now, apply it to all the other stuff you buy. Your food, clothes, household goods. When you can't afford to get all that junk at Target and Walmart what do you think happens to the bottom line at Target and Walmart? Then what? How many more on government assistance when they get laid off?
If you are seriously thinking of voting for Obama, I urge you to visit Canada, buy some stuff, get a case of beer, fill your tank with gas. When you get home ask yourself if you could live with those prices, ask yourself if your job is secure enough to afford paying the higher prices in the first place. Imagine people getting layed off, getting government assistance AND having to pay all the trickle down taxes from the businesses on the little they can buy.

Hey, Philly Dave, we are already losing businesses overseas because corporate taxes are lower almost everywhere...I am SICK of everyone yelling about lost American jobs, and we need to pull our heads out of our asses and see WHY the jobs are leaving.

50% of the country pays no income taxes. And that same 50% can vote, and will vote in more freebies for themselves, while the working class gets their money taken away to pay for that other 50%.

I work in an emergency room, and we give away millions in free care. And lest you say "it's because they have no insurance", nope, I'm talkinga about the Medicaid crowd that comes in for pregnancy tests (heaven forbid they pay for them at Walgreens when we who work can pay for them in the very expensive environs of the emergency room...this is not hyperbole either.

Raising taxes is stupid, period. It kills business, it kills employment, it kills incentive. It has never worked. Money and more jobs will leave here.

McCain was right about one thing, Hoover raised taxes and hastened the advent of the Great Depression. We need to keep Obama and his craphounds out of office. The man will drag us down and it WILL be worse than the Great Depression.

Amazing.

John McCain supports Hillary Clinton's HOLC plan for helping homeowners in danger of foreclosure. He even gives her credit in today's NYTimes.

Barak Obama does not support such a plan.

It appears McCain is more in touch with Main Street's concerns than Obama.

Or that Obama is either afraid to give Hillary Clinton credit for anything, or that he isn't an FDR Democrat, and never was.

Personally, I think it's both.

But Americans now know that McCain supported the HOLC long before Obama did.

Speaks volumes.

Amazing.

John McCain supports Hillary Clinton's HOLC plan for helping homeowners in danger of foreclosure. He even gives her credit in today's NYTimes.

Barak Obama does not support such a plan.

It appears McCain is more in touch with Main Street's concerns than Obama.

Or that Obama is either afraid to give Hillary Clinton credit for anything, or that he isn't an FDR Democrat, and never was.

Personally, I think it's both.

But Americans now know that McCain supported the HOLC long before Obama did.

Speaks volumes.

Amazing.

John McCain supports Hillary Clinton's HOLC plan for helping homeowners in danger of foreclosure. He even gives her credit in today's NYTimes.

Barak Obama does not support such a plan.

It appears McCain is more in touch with Main Street's concerns than Obama.

Or that Obama is either afraid to give Hillary Clinton credit for anything, or that he isn't an FDR Democrat, and never was.

Personally, I think it's both.

But Americans now know that McCain supported the HOLC long before Obama did.

Speaks volumes.

Maurice, I understand where you are coming from, and I, too, wish there were an easy way to strike a (relatively) painless balance between (1)collecting the tax revenues our Treasury so badly needs while (2) refraining from unduly burdening various sources of those tax revenues. The unfortunate reality, however, is that the Treasury needs more money, and it has to come from somewhere. It can't wait. It is also the reality that President Bush had a rubber-stamp Congress from Sept. 12, 2001 through the 2006 mid-term election, and together they created the mess we have on our hands now. Let's not overlook the obvious.

It is also the reality that the middle class desperately needs relief. Listen, I hate paying taxes every bit as much as you do, but I also understand the need for them. What I don't see in your post is any explanation of how our national debt will ever be paid down -- yet it must be. The level of debt our government now carries is not only a drag on the economy, it is also strategically dangerous. It must, and eventually will, be paid down -- and that money will come from tax revenues. Cutting taxes simply ignores the problem, and certainly does not solve it.

By the way, I am not necessarily suggesting that the majority, or even the largest chunk, of increased tax revenues come from coporate and other business taxes. (Perhaps they will, but I am largely agnostic on where those additional -- and desperately needed -- revenues will come from.) I am not a tax expert, but it is well known that when income taxes are reduced, the reduction must be offset by revenues from other tax sources. So, to the extent that you point that out, we are in agreement. (And, as I mentioned, we also agree that paying taxes basically s*cks. LOL.)

Given that the middle class has been hurt grievously by stagnant wages while the income differential between the top 5% and everyone else has accelerated alarmingly while those at the top enjoyed very favorable tax treatment under Bush, it seems that the most direct (and most justifiable) way to provide tax relief is to target the middle class through income tax cuts. I don't think anyone claims that this is a perfect solution, because nothing is. But let's begin by targeting those who have carried an outsize portion of the burden.

How to handle it beyond that point will be the object of much debate. Who knows, as of now? But cutting taxes across the board, or even leaving them at current levels (across the board) will not help bring back the economy, and will weaken our economy. Such a result, in the medium-term and the long-term, could erode even further, the strategic well-being of the United States of America. In this world, that would be dangerous.

So, bottom line, that is why I believe the Obama tax cuts make sense. Perfect? No. A good, sensible start on the road back to fiscal and conomic strength? Yes, I believe so.

interesting, Gallup has Obama up 11. Hotline couldn't be trying to inject a little tension by rejiggering the party id of it's sample could they?

It's so funny.

Every time the Republicans are losing, it's all about scaring people over taxes taxes taxes.

John McCain and George W. Bush have the same plan on taxes. Look what that's gotten us. A near-Depression.

I think the Republican Party's power base -- the multinational corporations and the ultra-Wealthy -- have played everday Americans for too long. The jig is up. Time to clean house of the Republicans once again. Don't let the door hitcha on the a$$. We are taking our country back.

Over 40% of Americans don't pay any income tax at all!!! Is the big O sayin' that 95% of the 40% won't pay taxes or that 95% of the payers will have their taxes reduced. BAD IDEA. Everyone needs a little skin in the game...

>>>Everyone needs a little skin in the game...

Yes, great idea.

Let's give MORE money to the Rich and HIKE TAXES on the POOR.

Are you serious?!

This isn't a "game," my fellow prisoners.

This is Pre-Emptive Class Warfare by the Republicans.

The Wealthy -- with their Weapons of Ca$h Destruction -- versus the Rest of the World.

And because the Republicans have screwed up so badly, WE THE PEOPLE are taking control once again.

Ethan I think you're wrong, both parties just slam each other. I don't think you know anything about main street either. What the people want is not in this election, I don't see it from either one of these guys (Or girl). I built my business on a credit card that they gave me before I had a ssa #, an address, or a job. I paid cash for my house and my mothers house I employ only familia. I live on main street, the rest of you need to learn how too. Eat less, put air in your tires and teach your children to speak spanish, amigos.

By the way Ethan, Check the Population growth tables, and tell me who is taking control of the U.S. of All. Remember the Alamo? Teach you children to speak spanish.

*** This is a response to a post by Maurice at 1:01 p.m. EDT. Why post it now? Because my computer froze when I hit the "Post" button and I had to getto a meeting shortly thereafter. I just came back to my computer and, voila, this (rather long) response was not lost in cyberspace -- so, doggone it, I might as well post it. Plz pardon any typos, b/c I don't have time or energy to proofread now. :-) ***

Maurice, I understand where you are coming from, and I, too, wish there were an easy way to strike a (relatively) painless balance between (1)collecting the tax revenues our Treasury so badly needs while (2) refraining from unduly burdening various sources of those tax revenues. The unfortunate reality, however, is that the Treasury needs more money, and it has to come from somewhere. It can't wait. It is also the reality that President Bush had a rubber-stamp Congress from Sept. 12, 2001 through the 2006 mid-term election, and together they created the mess we have on our hands now. Let's not overlook the obvious.

It is also the reality that the middle class desperately needs relief. Listen, I hate paying taxes every bit as much as you do, but I also understand the need for them. What I don't see in your post is any explanation of how our national debt will ever be paid down -- yet it must be. The level of debt our government now carries is not only a drag on the economy, it is also strategically dangerous. It must, and eventually will, be paid down -- and that money will come from tax revenues. Cutting taxes simply ignores the problem, and certainly does not solve it.

By the way, I am not necessarily suggesting that the majority, or even the largest chunk, of increased tax revenues come from coporate and other business taxes. (Perhaps they will, but I am largely agnostic on where those additional -- and desperately needed -- revenues will come from.) I am not a tax expert, but it is well known that when income taxes are reduced, the reduction must be offset by revenues from other tax sources. So, to the extent that you point that out, we are in agreement. (And, as I mentioned, we also agree that paying taxes basically s*cks. LOL.)

Given that the middle class has been hurt grievously by stagnant wages while the income differential between the top 5% and everyone else has accelerated alarmingly while those at the top enjoyed very favorable tax treatment under Bush, it seems that the most direct (and most justifiable) way to provide tax relief is to target the middle class through income tax cuts. I don't think anyone claims that this is a perfect solution, because nothing is. But let's begin by targeting those who have carried an outsize portion of the burden.

How to handle it beyond that point will be the object of much debate. Who knows, as of now? But cutting taxes across the board, or even leaving them at current levels (across the board) will not help bring back the economy, and will weaken our economy. Such a result, in the medium-term and the long-term, could erode even further, the strategic well-being of the United States of America. In this world, that would be dangerous.

So, bottom line, that is why I believe the Obama tax cuts make sense. Perfect? No. A good, sensible start on the road back to fiscal and conomic strength? Yes, I believe so.

Taxes, taxes. Debt, debt. Which do you prefer? No taxes, but higher debt. Higher taxes but lower debt. I think we need to cut spending and the place to start is the Pentagon and Homeland Security. Instead of 60 cents on every dollar going to 'security issues', reallocate some of that money to issues that effect people every day - infrastructure, education, domestic energy programs. Why does the US need to spend more on defense than every other country in the world combined? Why do we have to throw our water away when we enter an airport - to keep us safe?

Philly dave: there will be no increase in money flowing to the treasury. History has shown that every time taxes are cut more revenue is generated for the treasury. Not the other way around, it is a fact. This is because the same people Obama is going to increase taxes on are the vast majority of job creators in this country. Guess what, when you increase the cost of them doing business, they reduce the number of jobs and pay to employees to compensate. The only ones left holding the bag will be the employees and former employees, and it will be entirely Obamas fault. Remember most people that are smart enough to run their own business are also smart enough to figure out how to keep the goverment from taking more money out of their pockets, so good luck with that increase in revenue. Obama will destroy the last remaining bright spot of our economy, small business. Im not saying he will do this on purpose, Im saying he doesnt understand the effect his plan will have.

Philly dave: there will be no increase in money flowing to the treasury. History has shown that every time taxes are cut more revenue is generated for the treasury. Not the other way around, it is a fact. This is because the same people Obama is going to increase taxes on are the vast majority of job creators in this country. Guess what, when you increase the cost of them doing business, they reduce the number of jobs and pay to employees to compensate. The only ones left holding the bag will be the employees and former employees, and it will be entirely Obamas fault. Remember most people that are smart enough to run their own business are also smart enough to figure out how to keep the goverment from taking more money out of their pockets, so good luck with that increase in revenue. Obama will destroy the last remaining bright spot of our economy, small business. Im not saying he will do this on purpose, Im saying he doesnt understand the effect his plan will have.

Something is strange and fishy and ominous. The MSM is destroying this country. They are given too much power. Inaccurate reporting and downright lying. Where is the FCC???

I don't care if you are a Dem or Rep, this is getting out of hand. I switched FROM DEMOCRAT to Independent, because this party first is an ignorant attitude and DANGEROUS.

Something is strange and fishy and ominous. The MSM is destroying this country. They are given too much power. Inaccurate reporting and downright lying. Where is the FCC???

I don't care if you are a Dem or Rep, this is getting out of hand. I switched FROM DEMOCRAT to Independent, because this party first is an ignorant attitude and DANGEROUS.

So if hotline is off, what about Zogby who has Obama leading by 2? I think Gallup's poll is way off. This race is still close.

Wow, you guys are a bunch of idiots. McCain is as out of touch as an overly sheltered child, the only thing i can honestly think is that the people still supporting the dying bitter old man and the ex-beauty pagent girl are those whom are just brain dead and in total denial of the fact that he has no plan besides those that are given to him by his press people. Palins even worse, shes like a holky barbie that spews forth recorded a message of all their political sound bites. They still haven't discovered that the things that they are spewing are now being Fact Checked by news agencies like CNN. I mean wow, atleast know whats right and whats misleading or false and stop thinking that all americans are stupid enough to vote for you McCain, now known as Mr "That One".