Dems Blame Bush Admin For Terror Attempt
By Reid Wilson
As GOPers begin increasingly using the attempted bombing of a Detroit-bound airliner to score political points, 2 Dems are blaming the Bush admin for events that led directly to the failed attack.
While many Dems stay silent and let the WH lead the way, DCCC chair Chris Van Hollen and Rep. Eric Massa (D-NY) say the previous admin let down their guard.
"In general, we are facing the consequences of the Bush administration's failures to deal with al Qaeda," Van Hollen told Hotline OnCall. "The Republicans have no business in pointing fingers at the Obama administration on terrorism and national security."
"The Obama administration has been much more aggressive about going after al Qaeda than the Bush administration, which turned its focus from al Qaeda to Iraq," he added. The Obama admin has "been on the offense in places where the Bush administration had taken its eye off the ball."
Meanwhile, Massa has taken on ex-VP Dick Cheney, who he says is directly responsible for releasing the top al Qaeda figures in Yemen who aided and trained the Nigerian-born suspect.
"I would remind the American public that the apparent leaders of the al Qaeda cell in Yemen were 2 terrorists who were released by Vice President Cheney in secret. I think there's a level of accountability that has to be levied personally on the vice president," Massa said in an interview. "He is personally responsible for that."
Privately, some Dems have worried that allowing GOP charges to go unanswered gives the opposition another chance to claim the political high ground on national security. As Pres. Obama vacations in HI over the holidays, Van Hollen said the WH should be more aggressive in pushing back on attacks from the GOP.
"The Democrats need to fight back on this issue, keeping in mind that our goal is to focus constantly on how we can improve the national security of the American people. The Obama administration should not allow the Republicans to continue to get away with playing politics on this issue," Van Hollen said. "I think the American people are better served if we look to the future, but we need to make sure [that] playing politics with national security cannot go unanswered."
Both Van Hollen and Massa singled out Sen. Jim DeMint (R-SC), who has a hold on Obama's nominee to head the TSA, as worthy of scorn.
DeMint's "pure partisan ideology placed not only the passangers and crew of that Northwest flight at great personal danger, but in fact placed the entire American traveling public in danger," Massa said. "He should be held personally accountable for that incredible act of partisan politics that placed so many Americans at risk."
GOPers, meanwhile, have made an issue of DHS Sec. Janet Napolitano's comments on several Sunday news shows that the system worked, comments Napolitano walked back the following day. Massa, a member of the House Homeland Security Committee, has also voiced displeasure with Napolitano, calling her comments "counterproductive."
And Van Hollen said Obama had made a smart move by acknowledging the system's flaws.
"It was important for the president to recognize that we had some holes in the system, there's no doubt about that," the DCCC chair said. "The president has made his views clear, and obviously he's in charge here, and he expressed the situation most clearly."
Polls show national security remains much lower in the average voter's mind than the stagnant economy. But whether other Dems take up the calls to arms could determine whether GOPers retain a decisive electoral edge on an issue that, as the attempted Christmas Day attack demonstrates, has the capability to vault back to the top of the national consciousness in a heartbeat.








The Bush administration had 50+ warnings before 9/11 and did nothing. As a result of there actions terrorism as grown and spread, leaving Americans in danger all over the world.
Obama needs to stop obstricting investigations into the Bush administration and let us find out what really happened. We need to force Obama into action.
Its nice to a few democrats come out swinging hard. Lets' see if it gets any play in the Media. Vanhollen is correct Obama needs to pummel jack asses like DeMint. VanHollen is alos correct when he said DeMint endangered every American by his playing his silly poltical games
wait Massa's and and Van Hollen's statements will never get any media play becasue Cheney spoke again and media loves to suckle Dick Cheney
It is clearly their overwhelming guilt for allowing 9/11 to happen that is the source of Republican aggression -- the best defense is an offense.
Please go and get some psychological help, Republicans. You have been The Guilty Party since Nixon, Reagan-Bush I (Iran-Contra), and then the terminal laxity of Bush II.
If not that, then please stop your whining, which only serves to make us recall how deficient you were on all matters when you were in power.
Can you believe how mediocre was the 8 years in terms of dealing with the growing radicalism?
Some people wish we all suffer amnesia crisis!
I hope you remember the say that empty barrels make more noise. Fox News is the empty barrels broadcaster OK!
Why Iraq instead of Yemen!!!
where is the patriotic reaction of the Xmas day plot on American soil?
How can we voice louder than louder the administrative failure wish put us more at risk?
As usual the mediocrity consist in screaming on the airwaves and never to propose a constructive fixe!
Shame on them forever!!!
Why doesn't the Dick ever admit that 9/11 happened on their watch???
what slugs. Matalin lies that 9/11was not on Bush time now they lie about who let the 2 saudi organizers go back to Saudi then free.Were they friends of Bandar Bush?
YOU GUYS STILL DON'T GET IT. WE WERE NOT ATTACKED AGAIN AFTER 9/11, AND IN FACT MANY ATTEMPTS WERE STOPPED BEFORE STARTED. OBAMA HAS HAD HOW MANY SINCE TAKING OFFICE --7 OR 8. AND THERE HAS BEEN DEATHS UNDER HIS WATCH. AND YET, IN HIS OWN WORDS, "THEY'RE ISOLATED EXTREMISTS". GET REAL, UNDERSTAND WE LIVE IN A DANGEROUS WORLD.
Not to forget: the Grossly Obscene Party voted AGAINST funding for more sophisticated scanning equipment at airports.
Just imagine the uproar if Obama said of Bin Laden "I truly am not that concerned about him" like Bush did!
To call them hypocritical swine would be an insult to pigs.
The idea that former Pres. Bush was somehow completel responsible for 9/11 (i.e. that he didn't do anything to improve the flawed intelligence system he inherited from Clinton) and then is somehow still completely responsible now for what the Obama adminstration hasn't fixed is illogical and unsuportable. Reality is Clinton was asleep at the wheel, Bush was until 9/11,things improved after 9/11 to the point that the U.S. did not suffer another direct terrorist attack, but we've had two now under Obama (Ft. Hood and this latest attempt). To also blame Cheney for releasing "enemy combatants" when that's what the left was clamboring for for years (and now under Holder will give them full access to American courts) is hypocritical at best.
Hagar - Really? No attacks after 9/11? Let me help: Richard Reid, Jose Padilla, Anthrax, DC Sniper, just to name a few. Or were those Bill Clinton's fault too? You people are unbelievable revisionists.
Investigate the Bush adminstration? Get over it already. How bout investigating the President of the United States going on television saying the terrorist suspects moved from Gitmo to U.S. courts will be executed after they are convicted. Geez, anyone really think a Harvard lawyer doesn't know he's irreperably poisoned any potential jury pool?? A first year public defender could get these guys off, if not at trial, certainly on appeal. Absolutely criminal that a sitting Presidents lingering hatred for his predecessor would lead him to such a bonehead move - he's either that stupid (which I don't think he is) or he knew exactly what would happen - no way the terrorist can be convicted now under our system.
YOU KNOW WHAT IS DISGUSTING....OBAMA-MAN, TOOK 3 DAYS TO "MENTION" THE BOMBER AND THE ATTEMPTED MURDER OF 300+ PEOPLE, YET, HE IMMEDIATELY LEFT A GOLF COURSED TO RUN HOME THINKING THAT A CHILD GUEST AT HIS COMPOUND WAS HURT. SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE AND PRESIDENT.
Who is idea for democratic party to have a donkey as it symbol? Donkey??????? That is why they cannot talk or defend themselves. You ever see donkey defends himself?????
CONE OF SILENCE...TAKE RESPONSIBILITY. IF IT HAPPENED UNDER YOUR WATCH...YOU OWN IT. YOU'RE RIGHT THERE MAY HAVE BEEN ATTEMPTS...SOME WE ALL KNOW ABOUT, SOME WE DON'T BUT THERE WEREN'T ANYMORE DEATHS. KUMBAYAH ISN'T WORKING...GROW SOME "B...S" AND DEAL WITH THE PROBLEMS.
DC snipers were a couple of nut jobs - criminal activity not terrorism (i.e. not driven by desire to terrorize Americans, attack Americans in general because of our beliefs/fact that we're the "great satan"). Richard Reid - caught, convicted (and this we really shortly after 9.11 when new systems were being put in place). Jose Padilla? Caught by the new systems in place before anything happened. Anthrax? nut job working for the feds, but don't seem to remember anything about foreign ties/religious extremism, just p.o.'d about something. By your logic the four cops gunned down a few weeks ago in Seattle would be terrorism - actually just criminal activity. Big difference in the motivation/methods/purpose. Tim McVeigh would count as a domestic terrorist (oh, that's right, that one was on Clinton's watch). My point was if Bush "allowed" 9/11 because it occured during his term, than anything that happens now is Obama's responsibility. Only thing that saved us this time was a brave Dutch passenger - hardly a good system to rely on to protect our country when we know there are threats out there. And if you think the Bush Adminstration didn't thwart dozens of planned attacks you don't understand how far the NSA/CIA/FBI/military really are out there watching and protecting us. But apparently under Pres. Obama that is slippping - not suprising when he won't even use the word "terrorist" - so now we get to fly underwear free and not go to the bathroom on an airplane because the govt is lax about working with security in foreign countries.
The fact that Cheney released those "enemy comba-
tnats" secretly is the point. The fact that
9/11 happened when there were so many warnings,
from CIA, Richard Clarke's hair on fire, presidential briefs,
OSAMA BEN LADEN PLANNING IMMIMENT ATTACK ON US.
They did not heed the blatant signs, plain and simple.
We were attacked on their watch. We bailed out
of catching Ben Laden on their watch. "Mission
Accomplished" on their watch. Economy falling
through the floor on their watch. Lies told on floor of UN to get us into Iraq War on their watch. No weapons of massive destruction on their watch. Health Care premiums going through
the roof on their watch, offsetting all those
measly middle class tax cuts. On and on...
did Bush and Cheney do anything besides make rich
people more wealthy on their watch?
Hagar, Bush took 6 days to mention the shoe bomber. And you think 3 days is bad from Obama? Actually why did either one have to acknowledge either attempt at all? So now, our President has to come out and say something every time there is a terror attempt?
Hagar,
If it so offends you that the President took three days to mention this latest incident, what did you think when Bush took six days to mention Reid the Shoe Bomber? You Obama haters are such hypocrites.
Cheney needs to go away. His lack of memory or even ability to grasp facts is getting annoying, and just riles up that 10% of the country that thinks Obama is Muslim, Rush is God, and GWB was the best president ever. Is it a comment on the general manhood of our nation that we just can't seem to shake this Dick? Sorry...couldn't resist that one.
If you blame Bush solely for 9/11 due to the fact that Bush was physically in office on 9/11 then you cannot blame Bush for Ft. Hood and the Christmas incident when Obongo was in office on those days. Claiming ineptitude on the previous administration simply because it was republican while ignoring that Clinton gutted the military to its lowest level in 20 years and undermined all of our intelligence services seems selective at best and typically hypocritical at least. If Bush is responsible for the terrorist acts under the Obongo administration then Clinton is responsible for 9/11. Which is worse in your mind? Which one would you libbys rather take credit for?
Terrorists try to kill Americans, they don't choose Republicans or Democrats. Everyone should act as an American and fight to protect the country and its citizens. Anything else by either side does nothing!
you libs are pathetic!
Liberals, lets cut through the BS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thats attempt #1 there will be many more under this administrations watch, the next one might have someone you love or care about aboard. We'll see how you feel then!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
IT'S ONLY A MATTER OF TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What a bunch of Dem Sycophants posting here, Are you ALL Barney Franks dates?? LOOOOOOOSERS!
To counter the shrieking chorus on the right, I would also like to point out that dozens if not hundreds of roadside bomb, car bomb, and suicide bomb attacks (read: terrorism) on our troops in Iraq happened on Bush's watch and as a direct result of deeply flawed intelligence and arrogant unilateralism. How can you say he made our country safer when thousands of Americans, not to mention Iraqis, were dying for a bunch of BS?
According to the bi-partisan 9/11 Commission, the 9/11 pilots were trained at U.S. flight schools; by U.S. flight instructors; in U.S. aircraft...all while Bill Clinton was President of the United States. Plenty of blame to go around...wouldn't you say, Bill Brisolara?
I just heard one of Saint O's kids blamed W for their test scores not being up to snuff. Like father like child.
Now we've had two recent terrorists incidents on or over U.S. soil. The first at Ft Hood where Americans died, the 2nd over Detroit where nobody died, no thanks to the Obama administration or homeland security. In both cases red flags were waving and alarm bells were going off, but nobody noticed. Worse, after Ft Hood Obama wouldn't even call it a terrorist act, and after Detroit his Press Secretary and Head of Homeland security rushed out to tell us "The System Worked"? Obama has taken us back to 9/10 with a vengeance! He's persecuting the intelligence agents who kept us safe after 9/11, he's Court Martialing our Navy Seals because a murdering terrorist says they hit him, he's spending hundreds of millions on civilian Circus trials in NYC for terrorist enemy combatants who should be tried in Military Court. Nobody in our security agencies dares do anything under Obama and his justice dept less they be persecuted as profilers, racists, and potential torturers. And why is it Obama can spend tens of billions on corruption like the stimulous bill, the Louisiana Purchase and Cornhusker Kickback, but we don't have full body scanners in our airports? Trillions in debt, and none of it to keep us safe? Obama and the nation have had a Wake Up call to the damage Obama and the Democrats have done to our security in Obama's first year. Mr. President, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid...please "WAKE UP"!
PS: Obama, Dems: Bush has been gone for a year. Its your watch! Grow up and get real!!
Does this mean we can expect an "Isolated Extremist" Czar in the near future?
It takes a lot of nerve for Cheney to say anything about this.
The masterminds of this terrorist attack were in our custody, but Dick Cheney released them to an "Art Therapy Rehabilitation Program" in Saudi Arabia, which they quickly sailed through.
You have ZERO credentials on this issue, Dick. STFU.
"Trillions in debt, and none of it to keep us safe?"
You do realize that millions in TSA funding designed for airport screening was voted down because 117 Republicans voted against it?
Or are you just an idiot?
Thats attempt #1 there will be many more under this administrations watch, the next one might have someone you love or care about aboard. We'll see how you feel then!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I lost two brothers in the World Trade Center attacks on 9/11. That happened on George Bush's watch when he took the whole month of August off for vacation and ignored the CIA's intel. Don't you dare try to pretend you know the costs of terrorism, or that the Republicans have some record to brag about here. Don't you dare.
They no doubt will still be rotting at GITMO were it not for lefty's like you crying they should be released. Heck, Saint O is going to keep releasing them to Yemen evern after this attack. You going to cry about that?
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It takes a lot of nerve for Cheney to say anything about this.
The masterminds of this terrorist attack were in our custody, but Dick Cheney released them to an "Art Therapy Rehabilitation Program" in Saudi Arabia, which they quickly sailed through.
You have ZERO credentials on this issue, Dick. STFU.
TR
"They no doubt will still be rotting at GITMO were it not for lefty's like you crying they should be released."
Lefties like me aren't crying for them to be released from Gitmo -- and you'd know that if you ever pulled your head out Faux News -- we're saying they're criminal scum and they should be tried like criminal scum in courts. Just like we do with all other murderers.
Right-wing nuts like you are the ones who don't think our system of justice can prosecute these guys, even though we've already prosecuted plenty of them, even under the Bush administration.
The Peanut Farmer abandoned the hostages to Iranian terrorists.
Impeached Willy allowed the 9/11 terrorists to enter the USA under his terrorist coddling administration.
Bush built up our defense again after the shoe bomber.
Obama cowers and refuses to admit any war against terrorism.
Damn libs let down our guard even after being warned of this terrorist by his own father.
AS ALWAYS - LIBBIES REFUSE TO DEFEND THE USA!
No doubt you would have been crying had W said there are these notes out here about attacks and we are now going to require you to take off your shoes before entering a plane. I bet you would have that is a great idea and how about we pat everyone down as well. You want to cry about something cry about all those years Willie boy did nothing. Heck, Yemen offered up OBL. You going to say anything about that? You gonna blame W for Willie not picking up OBL back then? Spare me the tears buddy, this country will keep doing what is always does and that is what for the shoe to drop to do something. W tried to change that after 911 and cry babies like you cried a river saying how we can't attack someone till they blow us up first. Your whole post is about preemtive attacking. Save the b.s. for someone who is buying it buddy.
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Thats attempt #1 there will be many more under this administrations watch, the next one might have someone you love or care about aboard. We'll see how you feel then!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I lost two brothers in the World Trade Center attacks on 9/11. That happened on George Bush's watch when he took the whole month of August off for vacation and ignored the CIA's intel. Don't you dare try to pretend you know the costs of terrorism, or that the Republicans have some record to brag about here. Don't you dare.
Brian R.
President Obama is light-years ahead of Bush and Cheney in intelligence. Cheney presided (yes, I do mean he was in charge) of a failed presidency in terms of the mess he and Bush left us, and President Obama is dealing with each and every crisis with steely resolve and certitude.
Stay the course, Mr. President. The American people remember the failures of Cheney/Bush, and we are behind you 100%!
Oh....and Dick? STFU!
Kabookey, I say this as a Republican: please stop typing. You're not helping at all. When you say something like this to someone who lost family on 9-11, you really make us all look like assholes.
You mean just like ole Willie treated the first world trade center bombing, like a police action. His actions gave us the USS Kole, the embassy's, the kobar towere, the second trade center. Because lefty's like you and him think we are just fighting some criminal element down the street. This is war and the sooner you wake up to that fact the sooner you will realize you win the war by killing the enemy not by giving them miranda rights. This is not a criminal justice fight but a war and treating it like we need to send in the FBI instead of the marines will not win it.
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"They no doubt will still be rotting at GITMO were it not for lefty's like you crying they should be released."
Lefties like me aren't crying for them to be released from Gitmo -- and you'd know that if you ever pulled your head out Faux News -- we're saying they're criminal scum and they should be tried like criminal scum in courts. Just like we do with all other murderers.
Right-wing nuts like you are the ones who don't think our system of justice can prosecute these guys, even though we've already prosecuted plenty of them, even under the Bush administration.
TR
Brian Ross of ABC News reports that two of the four men behind the plot to blow up a U.S. airliner on Christmas Day were actually prisoners of the United States and that, under Bush, were released into a Saudi art rehabilitation program.
According to Defense Department records, Muhamad Attik al-Harbi (now known as Muhamad al-Awfi) and Said Ali Shari were released from detention at Guantanamo Bay in 2007 despite allegations of material support for military operations in Afghanistan.
http://airamerica.com/politics/12-28-2009/bush-let-christmas-bombing-planners-out-gitmo/
Hagar - "BUT THERE WEREN'T ANYMORE DEATHS". Anymore being the operative word here. At this point in his presidential career Bush had the deaths of nearly 3,000 citizens on his hands from terror attacks. Obama has zero so far, and we should all hope beyond hope that it stays that way. Enough said. Anything else you fools make up is just foolishness.
Sorry but that gives him no free hand to say B.S. He is using that as attack on the wrong person and using that as cover and I am not giving him or anyone a free pass, he sure as heck it not going to give anyone else a free pass.
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Kabookey, I say this as a Republican: please stop typing. You're not helping at all. When you say something like this to someone who lost family on 9-11, you really make us all look like assholes.
David1956
No doubt you were saying GITMO should have been closed back then and those guys released. So can we blame you too? Frankly, they should stop taking prisnors or at least stop bringing them to GITMO. I say drop them off in Eygpt or some of those other fine places where they give you miranda rights too.
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Brian Ross of ABC News reports that two of the four men behind the plot to blow up a U.S. airliner on Christmas Day were actually prisoners of the United States and that, under Bush, were released into a Saudi art rehabilitation program.
According to Defense Department records, Muhamad Attik al-Harbi (now known as Muhamad al-Awfi) and Said Ali Shari were released from detention at Guantanamo Bay in 2007 despite allegations of material support for military operations in Afghanistan.
http://airamerica.com/politics/12-28-2009/bush-let-christmas-bombing-planners-out-gitmo/
Wil Burns
Maybe our security would be better if Sen. Jim DeMint (R-SC) hadn't held up the Obama appointee to lead the Transportation Security Administration.
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2009_12/021674.php
With Republicans, it's politics above country. Always.
A silly speech by Nobama and back to the golf course!
But the isn't terrorist coddling by sissy libbies --- par for the course?
So lets get this right.
A year after Obama was elected and this is Bush's fault...
And yet 9/11 happened 10 months after Bush was elected and that was all Bush's fault to?
At the end of this though, all of this political maneuvering is nonsense.
Blame everyone... but secure the people. This is what is being avoided.
Bush got this. The only thing Obama can secure is another vacation.
Lord knows he cannot secure the mouths of his underlings. Fire Janet Incompetano
Gad, don't you Dems EVER tire of blaming Bush? Hey! WAKE UP! It's Obama in the White House. Hello?
Bush Waited Six Days To Discuss Shoe Bomber With No GOP Complaints.. double standards !! what a joke !!
yea, that would have made a difference. How about posting the link to where Dodd took money from airport screening and sent it off to his union buddies at the fire department unions? I am sure you just missed that one.
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Maybe our security would be better if Sen. Jim DeMint (R-SC) hadn't held up the Obama appointee to lead the Transportation Security Administration.
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2009_12/021674.php
With Republicans, it's politics above country. Always.
TR
The Nobama Administration wants unionization at TSA!
Stop this silliness.
Remember the damned traffic controllers that Reagan had to fire?
Nobama would only cower when they went on strike - afraid to offend the union thugs that own him!
And even now - Nobama is not in DC - but off playing golf!
I don't recall Bush blaming Clinton for 9.11, but Obama of course blames Bush for this attack. He has zero class. He takes responsibility for victories he has not achieved (the Nobel) and pads his resume with accomplishments the American people do not want (HC bill), while blaming Bush and his subordinates for mistakes on his watch (like this one). Bush could stay on vacation during the Reid incident because the people had confidence that he was bending the rules to go after terrorists. I thought he was supposed to be some kind of war criminal for going too far, so now he was too weak? All that we know so far about Obama on national security is that (1) he complains about Bush, (2) he does whatever Bush did, (3) he travels the world apologizing for how much we suck, (4) he complains about Bush, (4) he sells out his allies (Poland, Israel, etc.) for nothing, (6) he does nothing about human rights (Iran, Tibet, etc.), and (7) he complains about Bush. But by all means keep shouting epithets at Cheney.
LOL, yes that was the same. His dad turned him in too as well, right? He was on or should have been on no fly lists, right? As I recall that did not even know what that clown Reid was at first. I think they thought it just Harry's brother acting up.
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Bush Waited Six Days To Discuss Shoe Bomber With No GOP Complaints.. double standards !! what a joke !!
al
To Thomas who wrote "the GPO voted against funding for fully body scanners". Last I knew the democrats controlled the House and the Senate, so why didn't it pass. Appears to me that the dems probably feel that full body scanners would be an invasion of privacy and thus voted against the bill.
But the isn't terrorist coddling by sissy libbies --- par for the course?
How are liberals the sissies here?
All the people I see on TV pissing themselves with fear -- people who sound a lot like you -- are conservatives.
Sweet Jesus, sack up. Stop crying and get a hold of yourselves.
Obama of course blames Bush for this attack.
Where did Obama do that? Where?
Provide a link, or shut up. This isn't Fox News. You don't just get to lie about the President of the United States and get away with it.
WOW - OBAMA KNEW - did nothing!
The U.S. government had intelligence from Yemen before Christmas that leaders of a branch of Al Qaeda there were talking about "a Nigerian" being prepared for a terrorist attack, the New York Times reported Tuesday.
A senior official told the Times that President Obama was told in a private meeting Tuesday while vacationing in Hawaii that the government had a variety of information in its possession before the failed bombing on a Detroit-bound flight last week that would have been a clear warning sign had it been shared among intelligence agencies.
The newspaper said the information did not include the name of the Nigerian.
A CIA official prepared a report on Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab after a meeting with the suspect's father in November, who shared information about his son's extremist views, CNN reported Tuesday. The report was sent to CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia, but it sat there for five weeks and was not disseminated, a "reliable source" said.
"Had that information been shared... [he] might have been denied passage on the Northwest Airlines flight," the source reportedly said.
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A CIA spokesman confirmed the report Tuesday, saying: "We learned of Abdulmutallab in November, when his father came to the U.S. embassy in Nigeria and sought help in finding him. We did not have his name before then."
"This agency, like others in our government, is reviewing all data to which it had access, not just what we ourselves may have collected, to determine if more could have been done to stop Abdulmutallab."
The president acknowledged Tuesday that a "systemic failure" on multiple levels allowed Abdulmutallab to board the flight, amid growing evidence of missed warning signs.
The president, in his most extensive comments so far on what went wrong in the security process, said information about the terror suspect was not properly shared among agencies. He said that information, particularly a warning to authorities from the 23-year-old suspect's father in Nigeria, should have landed him on a no-fly list well before he boarded the Northwest Airlines flight in Amsterdam.
"The warning signs would have triggered red flags and the suspect would have never been allowed to board that plane for America," Obama said. "A systemic failure has occurred, and I consider that totally unacceptable."
Senior U.S. officials told The Associated Press that intelligence authorities are now looking at conversations between the suspect in the failed attack and at least one Al Qaeda member. They did not say how these communications with the suspect, Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, took place -- by Internet, cell phone or another method.
The officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss intelligence matters, said the conversations were vague or coded, but the intelligence community believes that, in hindsight, the communications may have been referring to the Detroit attack. One official said a link between the suspect's planning and Al Qaeda's goals was becoming more clear.
Obama said a mix of "human and systemic failures" contributed to what could have been a "catastrophic breach of security."
A senior administration official, speaking with reporters on condition of anonymity, said enough was known about the suspect to stop him, but the government didn't connect the dots.
"It is now clear to us that there were bits and pieces of information that were in the possession of the U.S. government in advance of the Christmas Day attack -- the attempted Christmas Day attack -- that had they been assessed and correlated could have led to a much broader picture and allowed us to disrupt the attack," the official said.
The suspect was not on the "no-fly" list or a separate list that would have required secondary screening at an airport.
Obama said there were several "deficiencies" in the intelligence-gathering process, and that information about the suspect "could have and should have been pieced together."
"It's becoming clear that the system that's been in place for years now is not sufficiently up to date to take full advantage of the information we collect and the knowledge we have," Obama said.
The comments come as the administration launches a review of airport screening and the terror watch list system. The president said a preliminary review is due to him by Thursday.
"We need to learn from this episode and act quickly to fix the flaws in our system because our security is at stake and lives are at stake," he said.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
"All the people I see on TV pissing themselves with fear -- people who sound a lot like you -- are conservatives."
Yep. Republicans are the ones who prove how manly they are by crying the hardest.
Going back at your posts, you sure look like you are doing a lot of crying and finger pointing to me. Of course Saint O can do no wrong and whether it is this or Saint O's smoking habbit it must be W's fault, right? Let's just send out the local CSI guys and let them handle all this and all will be right with the world.
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But the isn't terrorist coddling by sissy libbies --- par for the course?
How are liberals the sissies here?
All the people I see on TV pissing themselves with fear -- people who sound a lot like you -- are conservatives.
Sweet Jesus, sack up. Stop crying and get a hold of yourselves.
TR
The U.S. government had intelligence from Yemen before Christmas that leaders of a branch of Al Qaeda there were talking about "a Nigerian" being prepared for a terrorist attack, the New York Times reported Tuesday.
Really, "a Nigerian"? Man, that narrows it down.
Read the NYT piece and you'll see that this bombshell information was reported to the press by President Obama himself.
Listen, if you jerks hate the president so much, why don't you move to the Middle East?
You do not need a full review to find the moron that lets someone on with a one way ticket paid for in cash and with no luggage. That is not systemic failure that is front line failure that should have been caught even before any changes in the system were put forward. Now add to it his dad rats him out, he is on a no fly or watch list, he is a muslim flying solo in his early 20's and the bells should have been screaming out loud. No review needs to be done other then to find who looked over that manifest and let this guy through. That person should be fired today.
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Obama of course blames Bush for this attack.
Where did Obama do that? Where?
Provide a link, or shut up. This isn't Fox News. You don't just get to lie about the President of the United States and get away with it.
TR | December 30, 2009 5:33 PM
WOW - OBAMA KNEW - did nothing!
The U.S. government had intelligence from Yemen before Christmas that leaders of a branch of Al Qaeda there were talking about "a Nigerian" being prepared for a terrorist attack, the New York Times reported Tuesday.
A senior official told the Times that President Obama was told in a private meeting Tuesday while vacationing in Hawaii that the government had a variety of information in its possession before the failed bombing on a Detroit-bound flight last week that would have been a clear warning sign had it been shared among intelligence agencies.
The newspaper said the information did not include the name of the Nigerian.
A CIA official prepared a report on Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab after a meeting with the suspect's father in November, who shared information about his son's extremist views, CNN reported Tuesday. The report was sent to CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia, but it sat there for five weeks and was not disseminated, a "reliable source" said.
"Had that information been shared... [he] might have been denied passage on the Northwest Airlines flight," the source reportedly said.
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A CIA spokesman confirmed the report Tuesday, saying: "We learned of Abdulmutallab in November, when his father came to the U.S. embassy in Nigeria and sought help in finding him. We did not have his name before then."
"This agency, like others in our government, is reviewing all data to which it had access, not just what we ourselves may have collected, to determine if more could have been done to stop Abdulmutallab."
The president acknowledged Tuesday that a "systemic failure" on multiple levels allowed Abdulmutallab to board the flight, amid growing evidence of missed warning signs.
The president, in his most extensive comments so far on what went wrong in the security process, said information about the terror suspect was not properly shared among agencies. He said that information, particularly a warning to authorities from the 23-year-old suspect's father in Nigeria, should have landed him on a no-fly list well before he boarded the Northwest Airlines flight in Amsterdam.
"The warning signs would have triggered red flags and the suspect would have never been allowed to board that plane for America," Obama said. "A systemic failure has occurred, and I consider that totally unacceptable."
Senior U.S. officials told The Associated Press that intelligence authorities are now looking at conversations between the suspect in the failed attack and at least one Al Qaeda member. They did not say how these communications with the suspect, Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, took place -- by Internet, cell phone or another method.
The officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss intelligence matters, said the conversations were vague or coded, but the intelligence community believes that, in hindsight, the communications may have been referring to the Detroit attack. One official said a link between the suspect's planning and Al Qaeda's goals was becoming more clear.
Obama said a mix of "human and systemic failures" contributed to what could have been a "catastrophic breach of security."
A senior administration official, speaking with reporters on condition of anonymity, said enough was known about the suspect to stop him, but the government didn't connect the dots.
"It is now clear to us that there were bits and pieces of information that were in the possession of the U.S. government in advance of the Christmas Day attack -- the attempted Christmas Day attack -- that had they been assessed and correlated could have led to a much broader picture and allowed us to disrupt the attack," the official said.
The suspect was not on the "no-fly" list or a separate list that would have required secondary screening at an airport.
Obama said there were several "deficiencies" in the intelligence-gathering process, and that information about the suspect "could have and should have been pieced together."
"It's becoming clear that the system that's been in place for years now is not sufficiently up to date to take full advantage of the information we collect and the knowledge we have," Obama said.
The comments come as the administration launches a review of airport screening and the terror watch list system. The president said a preliminary review is due to him by Thursday.
"We need to learn from this episode and act quickly to fix the flaws in our system because our security is at stake and lives are at stake," he said.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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Fact Obama - the pansy - was too damned busy playing golf.
And still is!
You Republicans stand up for GW Bush and the party, I'm going to stand up fo President Obama and my party. Okay, now what do we do. That terrorists on that plane didn't give a dam if those people were Republicans or Democrats. The only thing that matter was they were Americans. Now from our leaders what do we see, the same old political games being played. The terrorists can get together and work against us, can Americans get together and work against the terrorists? Not from what I see. From day one the Republicans were on tv all set to play politics with this incident. How sad. We need answers as to why this happen and how we can prevented it in the future.
People: Am I the only one that is somewhat relieved that Al-Qaeda has now
resorted to sending a guy onto a plane who lights his own cock on fire?
Let's just send out the local CSI guys and let them handle all this and all will be right with the world.
You know, you can mock law enforcement personnel all you want, but the truth is that all the foiled terrorist attacks of the past five years -- the Miami group, the August 2006 plot, the LA library plot -- those were all foiled by law enforcement. Dropping bombs didn't solve those plots and prevent those attacks. Law enforcement did.
Bombing people may make you feel like a real man, but it doesn't do much to stop terrorism. According to Bush administration state department reports, al Qaeda recruitment only increased during the Iraq War.
I know, I know. You don't want facts, you just want to keep on hating your fellow Americans. Go ahead. Hate on the USA all you want. Hate on cops. Hate on the FBI. You're just like your hero, Timothy McVeigh.
LOL, you lefty's are too much. It was your right to complain under W now if you want to say anything about the Sainted One you should leave the country. That is classic buddy. Actually it is not Americans that hate Saint O so much but I think Saint O that hates Americans.
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The U.S. government had intelligence from Yemen before Christmas that leaders of a branch of Al Qaeda there were talking about "a Nigerian" being prepared for a terrorist attack, the New York Times reported Tuesday.
Really, "a Nigerian"? Man, that narrows it down.
Read the NYT piece and you'll see that this bombshell information was reported to the press by President Obama himself.
Listen, if you jerks hate the president so much, why don't you move to the Middle East?
Marc
"No review needs to be done other then to find who looked over that manifest and let this guy through. That person should be fired today."
Right. Which is exactly what President Obama said. He said there was a systemic failure, he said heads would roll.
When Obama protects the guy who fucked up here, fine, I'll join you. But how about you let them figure out who that was first?
Seriously, you people on the right ALWAYS assume the worst about the President of the United States. You're worse than any of the far left hippies ever were under Bush.
Once again -- if you hate our country and our president, no one is forcing you to stay here.
"I think Saint O that hates Americans."
I'm impressed they have internet access in the insane asylum you call home.
Yes, killing them where they live and breath is not the answer. We should wait till they hit us and send out the FBI to connect the dots. Of course not of that intel was gathered but the creatures we capatured out in the field. You know we didn't have a warrant when we grabbed Kalid or when we dropped a bomb Al Sawahiri. This is war and I know that kinda makes your scared but waiting for them to organize and plan attacks is not going to make this country safer. It is not I doing the hating here but you. The FBI and others have their values but fighting wars it not one of them. I guess you missed that point in history or civics class.
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Let's just send out the local CSI guys and let them handle all this and all will be right with the world.
You know, you can mock law enforcement personnel all you want, but the truth is that all the foiled terrorist attacks of the past five years -- the Miami group, the August 2006 plot, the LA library plot -- those were all foiled by law enforcement. Dropping bombs didn't solve those plots and prevent those attacks. Law enforcement did.
Bombing people may make you feel like a real man, but it doesn't do much to stop terrorism. According to Bush administration state department reports, al Qaeda recruitment only increased during the Iraq War.
I know, I know. You don't want facts, you just want to keep on hating your fellow Americans. Go ahead. Hate on the USA all you want. Hate on cops. Hate on the FBI. You're just like your hero, Timothy McVeigh.
Marc
"Fact Obama - the pansy - was too damned busy playing golf."
Pansy? He should have gotten five draft deferments like He-Man Dick Cheney.
What exactly did you want him to do? He was briefed, he saw that DHS and TSA were responding, and that was all he needed to do. Did you want him to play dress-up like President Flight Suit and race to the scene himself?
Sorry, the rest of us aren't three year olds. We understand what a president is supposed to do, and the job description doesn't include "action figure."
What's worse? Kabookey's spelling or his logic?
That is not systemic failure. A guy checking bags not doing his job is not a failure of the whole system, it is a failure of the person checking the bags, plain and simple. No one's head will roll. Saint O will keep blaming W and anyone else he can and all will pass till we are hit or attempted to be hit again. He is already protecting the person that f'd up, Dutch Nappy. She should gone tomorrow if not for her hairdo then for here moronic performance on TV. It is real simple to find out who cleared that manifest right now not 6 months from now and fire their butts.
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"No review needs to be done other then to find who looked over that manifest and let this guy through. That person should be fired today."
Right. Which is exactly what President Obama said. He said there was a systemic failure, he said heads would roll.
When Obama protects the guy who fucked up here, fine, I'll join you. But how about you let them figure out who that was first?
Seriously, you people on the right ALWAYS assume the worst about the President of the United States. You're worse than any of the far left hippies ever were under Bush.
Once again -- if you hate our country and our president, no one is forcing you to stay here.
Marc
You mean 5 deferment Joe B. He had his share of deferments as well. I guess you just forget he is the VP right now. Yes a president is supposed to give speeches saying how bad America is. That is job one, right?
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Fact Obama - the pansy - was too damned busy playing golf."
Pansy? He should have gotten five draft deferments like He-Man Dick Cheney.
What exactly did you want him to do? He was briefed, he saw that DHS and TSA were responding, and that was all he needed to do. Did you want him to play dress-up like President Flight Suit and race to the scene himself?
Sorry, the rest of us aren't three year olds. We understand what a president is supposed to do, and the job description doesn't include "action figure."
Marc
I love how Cheney comes out of his cave waddling around like the penguin every so often to whine about the new administration. It took the Bush administration a week to talk about the Richard Reid shoe bombing incident which was only stopped because of alert passengers not because of security.
Obviously it is your arguments since you are concered about my spelling and not about the facts. It is nice of you check out my spelling though, maybe you can make corrections for me and resubmit my posts.
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What's worse? Kabookey's spelling or his logic?
jackson
don't listen to the critics, kabooky. i love your posts. it's like watching a monkey eat his own poop.
Where would the Democrats be without Bush to blame everything on. Let's see, how can the Swine Flu be pinned on him? Janet said that all worked as it should. Wow! Good thing that the passengers weren't comatose as well.
maybe if pelosi didn't open her mouth about the cia lying, there could be more of a dialogue between agencies.
WOW - it always shocks me when the right personally attach our leader...I understand hating the person in charge - we progressives spent 8 years lamenting stolen elections and lies to start wars, but we never were so vocal/ violent and hateful. The separation of our parties has become painful, but Republicans don't want to even try to compromise and you blame the left for blaming everything on W. Well, he was in office for 8 years; started a war that helped to increase terrorists ranks; helped bankrupt our country (like every other business he touched) and took more vacations than any other sitting president. However, it'd be alot easier to stop blaming him if his ex-VP would shut -up and let this president do his job. And why are we blaming our president when this guy boarded a plane in another country - shouldn't we be blaming the airline and that airport? C'mon, we don't control the whole world - Please stop with your fear mongering and hate speech and let our nation try to find answers and run without torture and instigating war!
We need criminal investigations right now, right here. It is not only possible, but plausible that this negligence in our security apparatus is not an accident but is intentional, engineered by Bush/Cheney holdovers in the CIA and other security agencies responsible for keeping this country safe.
This in order to cause political catastrophe for the Obama Administration. They (Cheney) had no problem shooting down one airliner, and would have no problem sacrificing another in its political ambition. I would feel much more comfortable knowing that the possible machinations of the old regime's people are fully investigated. This may be the first glimpse of a possible political coup by Dick Cheney.
"Janet said that all worked as it should. Wow! Good thing that the passengers weren't comatose as well."
No, she didn't. Here's what she said:
"Once this incident occurred, everything went according to clockwork, not only sharing throughout the air industry, but also sharing with state and local law enforcement. Products were going out on Christmas Day, they went out yesterday, and also to the [airline] industry to make sure that the traveling public remains safe. I would leave you with that message. The traveling public is safe. We have instituted some additional screening and security measures, in light of this incident, but, again, everyone reacted as they should. The system, once the incident occurred, the system worked."
I really wish conservatives would stop lying. Or at the very least, that they'd bother to get the actual facts, rather than just relying on the GOP propaganda machine at Fox Not-News
don't listen to the critics, kabooky. i love your posts. it's like watching a monkey eat his own poop.
Naw, monkeys are smarter than kakooky.
"...but we never were so vocal/ violent and hateful." @6:41 p.m.
The "stolen election" and "lies to start wars" justification for progressives supposed polite, understated, and patriotic "lamenting" is as delusional as the claim of lib comity, and Dem loyal opposition, toward the previous admin is profoundly and cynically dishonest.
nb.: The acute and penetrating understanding as to how TSA international travel security works explains alot about your understanding of the previous eight years.
Friends don't let friends read "Think Progress."
I'm with Lisa, it is disgusting how the terrorists are winning this war. They are winning because we are breaking; patriots against patriots.
Stop the blame game and politicizing these crimes against the US. We cannot monitor every aspect of what gets checked and doesn't get checked at every airport in the world. But together we can find solutions. Stop already! The enemy is not the right or the left it is terrorism. There is plenty of blame to go around and be shared by both parties. Lets just make it better for us, no one party has the answer to our national security.
The 9/11 attacks were not the beginning of Islamic terrorism vs. the USA but the culmination of the repeated failures and unwillingness of the Clinton administration to take action.
1993 al Qaeda terrorists bomb the WTC killing 6. Clinton declares terrorism "a potential threat to national security" - two years later.
1995 van bomb kills 7 (5 Americans) at army training HQ in Riyadh, SA.
1996 January - Clinton ASKED Qatar for HELP in capturing KSM. He disappeared with later disastrous results.
1996 Qatar offers OBL to USA when he and 150 of his aides were refueling en route to Pakistan. Message from Clinton admin. "Let him land and proceed on to Pakistan."
1996 Clinton later admits in a speech in Long Island that he turned down a Sudanese offer to have OBL extradited to USA in that year.
1996 June - truck bomb destroys Khobar Towers in Dhahran, SA killing 19 Americans and injuring 372.
1998 February - OBL formally declares jihad vs. USA military and citizens anywhere in the world.
1998 August - truck bombs at US embassies in Tazania and Kenya; 200 dead, 4500 injured.
1998 December - OBL identified in Kandahar, Afghanistan; no strikes issued for fear of civilian casualties.
1999 February - military strike against OBL aborted due to fears of harming UAE officials.
1999 May - strike vs. OBL again aborted due to concerns over civilian casualties.
2000 October - USS Cole attacked; 17 killed, 39 injured.
Don't you think GWB inherited a pretty bad hand from his predecessor? How often did he play the "blame Clinton" card? 9/11 was a tragedy but GWB's track record after that looks pretty decent.
Why are the Oblahblah patrol so focused on DeMint's "delay" of Southers?
If you strongly believe that filling this position is so critical to fighting terrorism, perhaps you can explain why Obama waited until September 10 to make the appointment? And when did it get through conference (mid November)? It wasn't important for the preceeding 8 months and now it is a life or death postion?
BTW, it is a fact that nothing has been stopping Obama from recess appointing Southers to the position either. If it’s so urgent to have the postion filled, Obama should make a recess appointment. Do you think he will do it now?
Some of you have an excuse for everything, but take no ownership for the facts.
1. Of course, VP Cheney is dead-on right.
2. Of course, when Reid pulled his stunt, we didn't have a special facility to imprison him, interrogate him, or prosecute him.
3. Of course, President Obama has been working hard to disassemble these facilities that his predecessor set up just to handle a case like this.
4. Of course, the KnickerBomber should at least have a caterpillar put in his cell to get him to talk. Better yet, waterboard the phuccer and get some actionable information out of him.
5. Of course, the president and his left-wing choir need someone with the guts of Cheney to challenge them to do better, work harder, and be more ruthless than they were.
6. Of course, Obama's administration is even dumber than Bush's when they tried to cover up this "catastrophic human and systemic failure" for 24 hours, then tried to tell us that Napolitano was "misquoted" (IOW, don't believe your lying ears), and then after 48 hours came out and finally owned up to the obvious truth. Does anyone else get the feeling that Obama does not respect U.S. citizens and thinks that were all as dumb as he hopes we are?
7. His "I didn't ask for this systemic failure. I inherited it from the previous administration." schtick has expired.
8. Why didn't Massa stop the Bush administration from releasing the "top al Qaeda figures in Yemen who aided and trained the Nigerian-born suspect."? Can he provide evidence that he wanted the GitMo detainees retained? Someday, he'll look in the mirror and epiphanously realize that he should have tried harder.
Sadly, we have go to war with the president we have, not the one we wish we had.
Diva mews:
"Stay the course, Mr. President. The American people remember the failures of Cheney/Bush, and we are behind you 100%!"
In other words, "May I push your stool in?"
Kabookey - Instead of saying things like, "Well, you liberals would have let the two terrorists who helped the Nigerian out of Gitmo, too," thereby creating a false equivalency with the use of a fraudulent straw man, how about simply responding to the FACT that you keep dancing around, to wit, that Cheney was, in fact, the one who did let them out?
It certainly appears that you have attended the Fox Noise/Rush "Where's My Oxycodone" Limbaugh school of intellectually dishonest discourse for far too long. Put the Kool-Aid down, all right? While it won't provide you with any desperately needed IQ points, it will hopefully make life easier for those of us who care about rational and intellectually honest discussion of issues.
ZUMA BOUND, an Independent Who Voted For George W. Bush Who Believes That People Like Kabookey Are Nothing More Than Racists Who Will Never Be Able To Wrap Their Neanderthal Brains Around The Fact That A Majority Of Their Fellow Citizens Elected An African-American President
Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002:
House - 297 for, 133 against (82 Dems in the "for" column).
Senate - 77 for, 23 against (29 Dems in the "for" column including Clinton and Kerry).
"Any presidential candidate who would allow Saddam to remain in power would preclude that candidate from being president." John Kerry
Kerry:
Voted for the war.
Voted against funding the war.
Said he would have voted for the war even if Saddam did not have WMD.
Called war "Wrong war, wrong place, wrong time."
Then said as president he would fight the war "more intelligently" and would attract more allies to join the fight.
He sounds very nuanced. I think that just means he is all about opportunity politics.
All of you democrats are idiots. YOu have done nothing to protect this nation. Nothing. Then you want to blame bush. You will find out next November how the American people think by voting all of your asses out of office. YOu ruin health care and now you are going to act like a bunch of pansies dealing with world terrorists. All of these posts from Democrats are so pathetic. Your party has never stood up in any war in the last 50 years. All of you are sickening. Quit blaming Bush for your totally incompetent Obama government
Terrorism has been around for decades, and its aim is to strike fear and create discord and emotional and financial havoc on nations. By these measures, the terrorists appear to be succeeding.
It wasn't until terrorism hit our shores and W over-reacted and used it as a pretext to invade Iraq, that we are now paying the price in terms of lost treasure and lost unity as a nation. It has been a downhill ride ever since, and Obama is now forced to do a patchwork job of trying to put Humpty Dumpty, a.k.a. the U.S., back together again. It will continue to be an uphill battle unless we try to regain some semblance of unity and come together as a nation. Can we do that? If we can't, then the terrorists will have won.
Stop the partisan bickering. The real enemy is our own fear of believing that the other side has our own best interests at heart. We can do this. The question is, will we?
to the one that said we suffered no attacks after 9/11 and that we have had many since Obama took office - if that is true, coupled with the fact that Cheney is pretty much the cause of the most recent attack ... i would have to conclude that out of all the conspiracy theories out there, the one that suggests that CHENEY is behind 9/11 and terrorism in the first place is the most plausible !!!!!!
Cheney was right, Obama is denying we're being targeted by Islamic radicals. Even after al Quaeda in the Arabian peninsula posted news the attempted bomber was one of theirs, when Obama spoke he still asserts this guy was a ' lone wolf '. That is just not the case. When you have al Quaeda in Yemen sewing the explosive in his underwear, he's NO lone wolf.
Why can't our president admit there are lots of people around the world plotting against us ??
and since he doesn't, will he really take steps to make us safer ? I don't see how.
He's all talk and no action. Iranians see it, Jews see it, al Quaeda sees it, it's mostly Dems, that still have their ' adoring ' blinders on.
Read some of the stories from the UK, they have no illusions about our president anymore.
Biden warned quite some time ago that Obama " would be tested "
I think he's being tested on national security.
Problem is, if he fails, we all stand to lose.
We WERE attacked after 9-11, by the anthrax killer; has everyone forgotten about that? The actions of Bush/Cheney in invading Iraq, which had nothing to do with 9-11, starting Gitmo, Abu Graib, etc endangered us all because they have enraged the radical Islamics of this world.
Cheny needs to STFU!
Those that oppose this admin will never be satisfied, they want the President to fail, the US to fail, all of us to fail......it thier plan...it's unAmerican plain and simply......the failure of this President means more death and injury to our sons and daughters serving overseas, more families losing thier homes, more unemplyment, more children growing up in poverty....there are consquences to elections and it expected that every American will support country regardless........shame on them!
if you clowns on the left don't think we were fighting and killing al qaeda in iraq then who were they... go back and read "the truths" post... if you can understand it.. yes recitivism exists with released gitmo's... is that reason enough to release more...? by the way... do you think al Q in yemen read the expose'on tsa security that Janet the clown released on the internet and said "oh it was old stuff anyway"... or some drivel like that... just like "the system worked"... absolute fools...
Cheney let the co-conspirators out of Gitmo. Who fault is that?
Bush plunged us into a war that we did not have the money to pay for, and pushed through an expansion of Medicare, both of which served to turn a budget surplus into a trillion dollar deficit. Whose fault is that? In any event, given that, how can you suggest that Bush made us a more secure nation, either from the standpoint of terrorism or the soundness of our financial markets/system.
Bush ignored pre-9/11 intelligence pointing to the very kind of attack that took place on 9/11. Whose fault is that? In what way did that make us more secure?
The financial markets melted down on Bush's watch after eight years of the financial industry, a situation fostered by the Bush administration's lax oversight. Whose fault is that?
Rannan3, GOPrightwinger, Kabookey, I honestly think that you need to go back to school and at least complete an elementary school education before you attempt to analyze events and an African-American President that appear to confound your meager intellectual skills, to challenge your apparently limited verbal skills and to trouble your racist hearts.
dpat - Cheney and Bush let out the Nigerian's co-conspirators out of Gitmo. Whose fault is that?
dpat - In responding, be sure to use capital letters, full sentences and verbs, all right? "al Q" ?! Also, try to avoid abbreviations that make you look even more stupid, if not illiterate, hmmmm?
"As always libbies refuse to defend the USA."
As a vet who served two tours in Iraq, as the son of a vet who served in Vietnam, the great-nephew of a vet who died on Saipan Island in World War II, and the grandson of a WWI veteran, I have to take issue with your characterization.
I can tell you from experience that the men and women of our military come from all political persuasions, but our first duty is to our Commander in Chief, regardless of party.
While you're bickering about which party is more "American," terrorists continue to plot. Neither you nor I have any inside information on how many plots have been PREVENTED in the past year. Maybe none. Maybe hundreds. When things go wrong in the military theater, you don't sit around and point fingers, you try to learn from the mistake and act differently in the future. Thank God this nutcases' explosives failed to detonated. Thank God for the quick reaction of the passengers and crew. Analyze the failures and move on.
ZUMA... like I said... fools... we're repatriating 10 more to Yeman right? madness...MADNESS
ZUMA... NOW YOU SOUND LIKE A FOOL....
So let me get this straight. GW Bush was responsible for 9/11 since he was in office all of 9 months (and had ALL his appointees blocked by whacko Gore lovers). He is also responsible for Obammy's failure yet Obammy has been in office 1 year. You libs are sad. The Reps may be idiots but they will be back in power in 2010 because you idiots can't seem to get over Bush.
By the way, do Barry and Janet now recognize terrorism or is it still being called a "man made disaster"? Fools.
Let's think through this:
1) Obama and the Dems were elected, largely, by claiming/convincing America that the Bush Admin was incompetent, including their security policies.
2) So, now, the Dems are telling us that although they knew the Bush Admin was incompetent, they've been in power for a year and done nothing to change their incompetent security policies.
Who's incompetent, then?
Sheesh. We need to lose these losers.
Jake, Kady, dpat, etc.
The surest way to identify a right-wingnut is to look for the oversimplification, and then the constant repetition of the oversimplification, interspersed with insults that often disparage Obama's ethnicity. . .An African-American was duly elected President. . .Get used to it. . .It's Mr. President to you, Jake, not "Barry", nor "Obongo", a name used above by another writer. . .JUST get used to the idea that a majority of your countrymen elected an African-American. . .AND admit that Bush put us into the financial situation that we're currently in by failing to reign in the financial industry, by pushing through a Medicare expansion in 2003 and by getting us into the war in Iraq, NONE of which he (or we) had the money for, and which turned a budget surplus into a trillion dollar deficit. . .By the way, do any of you feel even a twinge of pain or regret when another one of your countrymen or women loses a limb or part of his or her brain or his or her life. . .4,000 dead, countless more maimed. . .Why?. . .The number of terrorists seem exponentially larger now, than before the war. . .
Stop hiding behind mindless rants (articulated without the benefit of capital letters) about lefties, libs, Dems, using inane labels like ObamaCare (how exactly can anyone on the right suggest that the current private insurance-based provision of health care be considered successful?) and allegations that Democrats and/or liberals don't care about the safety of this country to denigrate the President's efforts to make things better for everyone, and try to offer some rational insights, for a change, instead of elementary schoolyard-level stupidity and insults.
Of course it is Bush's fault. Anything bad that happens is Bush's fault. Anything good that happens is because of Obama.
Ahhh, KPO'M. . .Ya see?. . .That's just my point. . .A wingnut is pathologically unable to admit anything negative about his or her side of the political spectrum. . .Bush screwed up a lot. . .Yet someone like you, KPO'M, simply can't admit it. . .Why?. . .Does it threaten your masculinity in some way?. . .How about using some facts to contest the position that I took regarding how Bush screwed up, rather than the kind of black/white oversimplification in which wingnuts, like you, who can't allow themselves to ponder, even for a moment, that another way of looking at things might have merit tend to engage. . .Of course, it isn't true that "[a]nything bad that happens is Bush's fault." Nor is it true that "[a]nything good that happens is because of Obama." The reverse of both statements isn't true, either, but, to listen to wingnuts like those who have offered their opinions above, like you, it is. Do you idiots care for a second about being intellectually honest in any political discussion? Or is it always the case that you emotionally spit out mindless, wingnut talking points, instead of thoughtful analysis? Pathetic, really. . .So, pathetic. . .You know what, just go back to watching Glen Beck and whatever masturbatory fantasies you and all the rest of you right-wing nuts are harboring that Obama won't succeed, or that Bush wasn't an idiot. . .
Note to OBAMA AND THE DEMS: GROW UP. TAKE RESPONSIBILITY. YOU DID NOT COME DOWN WITH THE LAST SHOWER. YOU KNEW WHAT YOU WERE GETTING INTO. YOU WANTED THE JOB SO JUST SHUT UP AND STOP YOUR INCESSANT AND TIRESOME WHINING.
Kate - uh, what exactly were you TRYING to say?!. . .Something about a shower and knowing what we were getting into. . ."Whining" somehow factored into it. . .Honestly, Kate, arrogance and stupidity are a dangerous combination. . .By the way, my previous comment probably applies to you. . .Instead of telling people to shut up, why don't you try applying your apparently limited intellectual capacity to offering more thoughtful, and less arrogant, observations. . .
Zuma - have the democrats controlled both houses of congress for three years?
Why, yes they have.
What did Senator Obama and his fellow donks do to contain or mitigate the sub-prime/credit/GSE crises?
Why, nothing at all. In fact, Senator Obama threatened a filibuster of proposed republican reform measures.
Did the president have the power to write legislation to prevent/mitigate said sub-prime/credit/GSE crises?
Why, no he doesn't. Only congress has that power.
Mr. Kabookey, It's absolutely amazing that you spend so much time here! Good Lord, don't you work, or eat or even sleep for that matter? How about praying for the country and the president instead of wallowing in negativity?
KPO'M, Kady Kate, dpat, Kabookey,
Come on, guys. What's the matter. Are you finding it just TOO difficult to think outside the Fox Noise box, and formulate a response to my comments on the fly? Or are you just thinking how pretentious liberals are, with all of their big words and troublesome, annoying facts? Maybe, it's that you are used to shouting slogans at people at townhall meetings, rather than intelligent, rational back and forth discourse.
Well, anyway, I didn't mean to hurt your respective feelings. . .But, hey, if you can't stand the heat, as they say, get out of the kitchen. . .Tell you what, go read Sarah Palin's book. . .She's an idiot, too, but I'm sure she'll make you feel better about your own closeminded idiocy. . .
Come on Zuma, no response to this?
The 9/11 attacks were not the beginning of Islamic terrorism vs. the USA but the culmination of the repeated failures and unwillingness of the Clinton administration to take action.
1993 al Qaeda terrorists bomb the WTC killing 6. Clinton declares terrorism "a potential threat to national security" - two years later.
1995 van bomb kills 7 (5 Americans) at army training HQ in Riyadh, SA.
1996 January - Clinton ASKED Qatar for HELP in capturing KSM. He disappeared with later disastrous results.
1996 Qatar offers OBL to USA when he and 150 of his aides were refueling en route to Pakistan. Message from Clinton admin. "Let him land and proceed on to Pakistan."
1996 Clinton later admits in a speech in Long Island that he turned down a Sudanese offer to have OBL extradited to USA in that year.
1996 June - truck bomb destroys Khobar Towers in Dhahran, SA killing 19 Americans and injuring 372.
1998 February - OBL formally declares jihad vs. USA military and citizens anywhere in the world.
1998 August - truck bombs at US embassies in Tazania and Kenya; 200 dead, 4500 injured.
1998 December - OBL identified in Kandahar, Afghanistan; no strikes issued for fear of civilian casualties.
1999 February - military strike against OBL aborted due to fears of harming UAE officials.
1999 May - strike vs. OBL again aborted due to concerns over civilian casualties.
2000 October - USS Cole attacked; 17 killed, 39 injured.
Don't you think GWB inherited a pretty bad hand from his predecessor? How often did he play the "blame Clinton" card? 9/11 was a tragedy but GWB's track record after that looks pretty decent.
Why can't the Party of NO just shut up?
You just have no issue here.
Eight years of insanities, isn't if enough?
No, they continue their blathering and distortion of reality as nothing happened.
It's just amazing.
The focus should be: Prosecute Bush&Cheney, That should make them occupied for a while.
I don't think that the Donks want the issue of the release of the two GitMo detainees to go very far. One minute on Google and the awful truth begins to emerge. Turns out AG Holder's law firm was directly responsible. No one on planet Earth actually believes that Cheney (of all people) would ever willingly release GitMo terrorists. Zuma, your goose is cooked:
"There is an additional and intriguing angle involving Yemen, creating a confluence between, that country, Ft. Hood and the Obama administration, in that U.S. AG Holder’s former law firm, Covington & Burling, represented a number of Yemeni detainees who are/were being held in GITMO.
It was meddling by committed lefty attorneys which made military prosecution of the GITMO detainees so difficult. Relentless pressure applied by these advocates is what ultimately led to the Hamden decision [Hamden vs. Rumsfeld, 548 U.S. 557, 2006] in which the military tribunal system established by the Bush administration – relying upon long historical precedent – was overturned on a 5-3 Supreme Court decision, which for the first time in American history applied principles codified in the Geneva Accords to terrorists to which Geneva was long understood not to apply.
As we noted in a February piece [Former Partner Of Eric Holder's Law Firm Represents Cole Bomber And 14 Other GITMO Detainees, http://www.pipelinenews.org/index.cfm?page=holder1id=2.9.09%2Ehtm] the involvement in this process by Holder’s old law firm was substantial."... Pipeline News
Prospector,
As I was saying above, oversimplification of complex subjects precludes a fairminded discussion of them.
To cut to the chase, the post-2000 Republican majority in Congress followed the lead of President Bush. As the titular head of the party, he set policy, and the Republican Congress implemented it legislatively. Decreased regulation of the financial industry was one such policy imperative. So, while President Bush couldn't legislate, he COULD lead. He did so. The Congressional Republicans followed that lead, and led us all into financial disaster.
Your sleight of hand regarding whatever efforts the Democrats made during the Bush Administration to deal with the issues underlying the financial crisis doesn't change the fact that the crisis occurred as a direct result of the deregulation sought, and implemented, by Republicans at the behest of President Bush and his administration.
Regarding the efforts made by the Democrats over the last three years, suffice it to say that Republican obstructionism has proven a worthy, albeit an unfortunate, counterweight to the Democratic majority.
For the record, looking President Obama's vote on any given bill, which I assume is what you based your snarky reference to a bill that Obama voted against in connection with regulation of the subprime mortgage industry, without considering what the specifics of the bill in question were, is tantamount to referencing and/or taking it out of context. Senators and Congressman oppose bills all of the time for a variety of reasons, often times doing so because the mechanism of the bill is faulty in some way, despite the superficial allure of the bill. As you may or may not know, that was the case with respect to the bill you referencedin your comment.
Deregulation of the financial industry, and corresponding lack of oversight, occurred when the Republicans were in the majority and facillitated it as a part of the party's small government, limited regulation, let the market police itself, philosophy The Democrats' subsequent efforts to regulate were stymied by Republicans like Mitch McConnell.
Next time, Prospector, instead of a series of "one-liners", try a little analysis, and, instead of misstating and/or obfuscating the true facts, try being a little more fair and accurate.
The Truth,
I don't hold Clinton blameless. I do hold Republicans and right-wingnuts hypocritical for suggesting that Bush was blameless (he simply wasn't), and in pointing to Clinton's missteps as a kneejerk reaction anytime someone points the finger at Bush's failings. Bush could apparently misread and ignore intelligence with the best of them, Clinton among them.
For the record, I have noted, with great interest that no one on the right in this discussion has so much as touched the subject of the Bush Administrations wild-eyed spending habits, the ones that took us from a budget surplus to a trillion dollar deficit (the war in Iraq, the very expensive expansion of Medicare in 2003, etc, none of which we had the money to pay for). Doesn't any of you have a persuasive "defense" for that? Or are all of you on the right simply going to ignore the spendthrift ways of the Bush Administration because they are an inconvenient truth for which you have no response?
Yes Nancy, those towelies were just minding their own business until we hit Iraq. They were not trying to blow us up for years and years when in fact we spend more money helping them then their own countries. Yes we are the evil satan, do you do your prayers daily to the east?
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We WERE attacked after 9-11, by the anthrax killer; has everyone forgotten about that? The actions of Bush/Cheney in invading Iraq, which had nothing to do with 9-11, starting Gitmo, Abu Graib, etc endangered us all because they have enraged the radical Islamics of this world.
Cheny needs to STFU!
nancy
LOL Becca, you are actually defending the system worked Dutch Nappy. The system worked well for the guy trying to blow up the plane. That statement is like saying the ambulance arrived on time after the accident. That is a joke pure and simple and not even the dims are defending Dutchie.
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"Janet said that all worked as it should. Wow! Good thing that the passengers weren't comatose as well."
No, she didn't. Here's what she said:
"Once this incident occurred, everything went according to clockwork, not only sharing throughout the air industry, but also sharing with state and local law enforcement. Products were going out on Christmas Day, they went out yesterday, and also to the [airline] industry to make sure that the traveling public remains safe. I would leave you with that message. The traveling public is safe. We have instituted some additional screening and security measures, in light of this incident, but, again, everyone reacted as they should. The system, once the incident occurred, the system worked."
I really wish conservatives would stop lying. Or at the very least, that they'd bother to get the actual facts, rather than just relying on the GOP propaganda machine at Fox Not-News
Becca
From what I've read Rove admitted that releasing any Gitmo detainees was a big mistake but they had no grounds to hold them. Can't have it both ways, complain when they are being held and complain when they are being released. Also it doesn't negate the fact that we have had 3 terrorist attacks in one year, one successful, while after 9/11 there was only one, Reid, unsuccessful.
Rush Limbaugh was rushed to the hospital because of an overdose of viagra. He was complaining of chest pains when he was on a "date".
The enemy is not the right or the left it is terrorism. There is plenty of blame to go around and be shared by both parties. Lets just make it better for us, no one party has the answer to our national security.
Cheney / Palin 2012
nice job, KABOOKEY, keep typing. you're awful comfortable behind your keyboard "mouthing" off insensitively, aren't ya, with all your clever name-calling...
hateful spewings from you and republicans like you are no less frightening or threatening than terrorist acts.
This President is getting the on the job training Joe Biden was talking about obviously. America can not afford this. The man is more concerned about the feelings of other thug dictators and the world community in general than he is about his number one responsibility. If he did infact see things were wrong with the system put in place, instead of waiting a year with other goals such as trying to destroy healthcare , lobbying for the olympics , polishing his Nobel Prize, bowing to and kissing up to and apologizing to foreign leaders, pretending enemy combatants have constitutional rights, prosecuting CIA agents for getting the information that actually lead to the capture of would be terrorists "before" they boarded the planes, having publicity stunts like beer summits with police officers and elitist professors, fimling Christmas specials with Oprah in between appearances on Leno and Letterman he should have been revamping the system that worked then didnt work. I would also assume that the many plots that were stopped over the past year will be credited to the Bush Administrations "system". But then again that may require some consistency from the consistently inconsistent left
No, No, No! Clinton was the cause of 9/11 (which only happened 8 months after Bush came in, fought all the way by the left wing Demo nutjobs who did their best to hamstring him at every move). Bush inherited the mess and never complained (unlike the "One" whiner we have now). Bush improved our situation re the murdering Islamists, who are inspired by the hateful Koran (no attacks after 9/11, remember). He turned that improved system over to Obama.
Obama, the incompetent, left wing hack, inherited Bush's improved security system, went around the world kissing butt, pointing out how we are a terrible country and generally projected weakness. You know, "talk to them so that we can understand why they hate us so much" party line. The "it must be our fault" narrative. (All well understood gambits of the left, a virtual playbook of America-hating weakness and self-loathing). Empty speeches, empty words, beautifully delivered via telepromter! Dangerous words........
Obama is clearly unqualified and unwise to the ways of the world. How can you expect a child-like socialist, Alinsky inspired, Soros funded, ACORN loving, Wright worshiping, undiscriminating Muslim embracing, "poorly" educated, 1/2 American, Narcissistic, Chicago corrupt, arrogant man-child, drunken sailor spending, deceitful, secretive posure to be anything other that the failure he is? But with insane ambitions: Remake America! Remake the World! (In "my" image, of course. Where have we heard that before?)
Appointments a disaster (the clueless, incompetent "Man-Caused Disaster", "The System Worked" Napolitano, anyone?). No need to go on.
The "It's Bush's fault" trope is wearing a little thin by now, isn't it?
Admit it! The country has been betrayed by this radical manque, whose puppet strings are pulled by some very scary people. A blank slate for the hate America crowd, knowingly promoted by a media whore class of enablers, assisted by the tag-team duo of left wing nut job Nancy "Nanzi" Pelosi, buffoon-like Harry Reid and the usual squalid group of other suspects.
This is crazy! How many years are these people going to blame Bush? If it's one thing he did RIGHT, it's keep us safe. The only reason other measures aren't in place is because squalling from organizations like CAIR and ACLU. Once you get government in place like the TSA, they are frozen by stupidity and political correctness and layers and layers of bureaucracy.
What til they get their hands on health care. Monstrosity.
Wow. This site is full of a bunch of leftist idiots.
All this venting we do accomplishes a great deal, correct??
Lets get real. All this will be resolved in 2010 through the ballot box or the bullet box as necessary. I am kind of inclined toward the latter as I relish having some stupid libs in my crosshairs. Remember, when all else fails, vote from the rooftops.
This is a "Hoot"--Does anyone still have a brain---Everything Pres. Bush tried to do, he was fought by Democrats, ACLU and other Liberal groups at every turn.
Liberals just can not tell the truth--they twist and turn everything when their dream world starts crashing down!!
On a larger point, I find it curious that Obama apologists can never defend him in absolute terms. Since the facts on not on their side, they have no choice but to begin every argument with "but Bush...".
Lets face it - McCain would have been a much better president given the problems we face. If nothing else, at least he would have been man enough to take charge (and responsibility) of his administration.
The country is getting tired of Obama phoning it in and voting "present" on every issue. His polls are in free-fall.
Oh, now I get it. Bush wasn't tough enough on terrorists.
For those who are convinced that terrorism was worsened because of Iraq, why did Islamic terrorists fly planes into the WTC? This happened prior to the Bush II Iraq War. Somehow a large group of people on this blog and elsewhere are convinced that if we just act less like "imperialists", the terrorists will like us and leave us alone. Hello?? The people that seek to destroy this country hate what I and most Americans (at least those who have some sense of history) stand for and they want it destroyed. They don't want you or me to have freedom. They want all of us to live under Sharia law. If we became complete isolationists, they would still hate and try to destroy us. What we do or don't do (other than convert to fundamentalist Islam) is irrelevant to them. All this other blame game BS about the past is a waste of keystrokes.
My bottom line concern is that we are facing a sophisticated enemy of the US yet our administration treats them as criminals. They are not - they have no rights under the US Constitution. Now that Eric Holder has given this Nigerian nut Miranda rights and gotten him lawyer, we will learn absolutely nothing more from him. The simplest and most obvious form of intelligence has been given up by our attorney in chief because he has decided to treat enemies of the state as protected US citizens.
This admin has a whole different view as to what is unique and worth protecting about America and they are in the process of erasing the lines that define us. In spite of its flaws, the underpinnings of this country are what make it great and make us the place others want to be (no one illegally crosses the border into Iran on purpose). I am convinced that our current admin leaders either don't understand it the way many of us do or do understand it but don't intend to preserve it. All leaders make mistakes, but these guys are flawed in the principles that guide their thinking. If the rest of us don't see to it that we get significant leadership changes, we'll become another footnote in history vs. a beacon of hope for millions of decent people around the world. Flaws and all, we still offer an opportunity at freedom and opportunity unmatched anywhere.
The Left’s universal answer when wrong: “Yeah, but Booosh….. “
LOL.....
If Obama was so intelligent why has he spent his entire life living off the wage earners? Living off the dole?
I majored in polysci during the formation of the neocons, watched liberalism destroy this country one agency after another..ripped the public off Freddie/Fannie and get way with it....the corruption today is the worst it has been since reconstruction.
This failed attack is directly the result of Obama down playing the threat and gutting the agencies tasked with protecting us....
Obama and the Dems project weakness across the globe and now we are seeing the results of that. Elections have consequences. This guy is in over his head, and is a dangerous combination of ignorant and arrogant. I just hope our economy and our country can survive 3 more years until this goof is sent back to community organizing where he's better qualified.
Wow. I've read quite a few of the above posts, and it's really made me a little sad. The unfortunate truth is that our security apparatus, as well as the rest of our government structure, is run largely by mid-level functionaries who have been in place, for the most part, since the Reagan/Bush years.
It may be fun to point political fingers and jump up and down, but that truly won't change a thing! It's about time that the government employees who continue their incompetent existence year after year were held accountable.
But somehow we've afforded these folks union protections that the private sector would/should never allow. As an aside, the entire construct of unions was to ensure that workers got an equitable share of corporate profits. Since government has no profits, how can there be a union of government employees?
Do you honestly think things would be different if McCain were president? He would also be trying to close Guantanamo. We would still have TARP, the economic stimulus debacle, the car company bailouts, and, in all likelihood, some other wacky version of health-care reform.
So jump up and down if you must, but admit that it's just a good aerobic exercise.
Have a safe, happy New Year.
Bush did screw up by ignoring pre-9/11 intelligence that the attack was coming. Why can't all of you partisan wingnuts just admit that? It doesn't mean that you can't criticize Obama or Clinton.
I find it ironic that the rightwing complains about the left starting out every defense of Obama with, "But Bush. . .", and then, in defending Bush, start out by saying something along the lines of, "But Obama." Do you guys understand the concept of irony?
All of the hyperbole in which wingnuts engage doesn't advance the discourse. While I realize that all of you have this seething inarticulate cauldron of emotion and ego inside of you that needs to spew forth in some way, you hurt the country more than you help it by attempting to analyze matters that are clearly above your intellectual pay grade.
Here's a question for you to ponder, "analyze" and get back to me on, something that not a single wingnut has deigned to talk about herein: Whose fault was the fact that Bush turned a budget surplus into a trillion dollar deficit by getting us into a war, and by dramatically expanding Medicare in 2003 in a way, that we didn't have the money to pay for?
Let me guess. . ."But Obama". . .Right?. . .
Look, all of you need to just wrap your limited intellectual potential around the fact that your fellow countrymen saw fit to elect an African-American to the Office of President, and resist the impulse caused by your latent/patent racism to spew forth about President Obama at every opportunity. Give him a chance. He might surprise you. And, I'm quite certain, doing so will let your respective blood pressures fall to a more normal level. Oh yeah, I would recommend that you all stop watching Glen Beck and listening to Rush "Where's My Oxycodone" Limbaugh. You're imbecilic "fire" and they're the manipulative "kerosene."
Zuma got one thing right. Stupity and arrogance in this administration and their supporters is a dangerous combination.
It's simple fokes - let's work together to protect our nation and way of life. The blame game never works!
Lets get it right.
9/11 happened after 7 years of failed foriegn policy under Clinton as Osama Bin Laden was allowed to tramp all over the place killing Americans and other innocent people (lets see: USS Cole, NYC Trade Center Garage, Kenya, Tanzania etc).
In fact, Clinton had two clear opportunities to take the guy out before Osma became an urban legend and his Crime Inc. empire became an spider web of extrimists with one goal only: killing any American in sight. In fact, Clintons last opportunity to take him out was put on the back burner when Billy Boy was in the midst of the Lewinsky scandal (anyone recall that proud moment in American history??) because he felt he would be seen as trying to divert attention away from his infidelity and lying bonanza. Talk about compromising national security!
Bush inherited Clintons ineffective forigen policies and just months into his presidency 9/11 happens. 9/11 was put in motion LONG before BUSH was president. In fact Bush had put the plans back together to start funding allies (Ahmad Shah Massoud, who had gotten nothing under Clinton) in Afghanistan to find Osama when 9/11 took place. You see, during the 8 years of Clintons time in office, the Afghanistan issue was largely ignored despite the fact Osama was operating from there to bomb the World Trade Center in 1993, Bomb the USS Cole in 1995 and Bomb two embassies in Kenya (1998) and Tanzinia (1998). Bill was too busy getting blow jobs I guess to really have a plan. Clinton ever went so far as to endorse the Taliban when they took power.
So I find it not only unacceptable that these clowns think that it was Bushs failed policies.
This was set in motion back when Bill was getting laid in the Oval office and got so far out of the box, no one has been a ble to put this genie back in its bottle.
What will have to be done now to stop this mess, no one has the guts to do.
Don't the Dem's get tired of blaming everything on Bush? Bush is gone, almost a year now. I don't recall Bush blaming Clinton when 9/11 happened 8 months after he took office. The blame game is old and childish. I do not think our current government is taking terrorism seriously enough, they don't even want to call it what it is.
Most Muslims are not violent jihadis, but all violent jihadis are Muslim. ``This nation," President Bush has said, ``is at war with Islamic fascists." How much longer will we tolerate an aviation security system that pretends, for reasons of political correctness, not to know that?
before more Americans are killed we should morph our system into that of Israel...They are surrounded by howling Mus.lims and have zero air incidents...They profile people and not things and have the best security i the world...We have hapless idiots in charge..
Given Obama's record for picking qualified "czars", give DeMint a thumbs-up. Besides how many more tax evaders are left to choose? Not to mention that if the information never left the CIA, what would the head of TSA been able to do? Not having traveled overseas, is TSA at the terminals of foreign airports? Let's not also forget the party crashers. Turned out to be harmless but does point to again an Obama department head not stand up and accept some responsibility.
Our Politically correct security system is hopeless....It is run by people just like everything else democrats cherish and push.... RACIAL QUOTAS in jobs and schooling OVER COMPETETIVE INTELLECTUAL MERIT....FORM over SUBSTANCE. perhaps that is why the Pelosies and her democrat associates of the world refuse to fly in commercial aircraft.
ZUMA BOUND,
First things first.
I get alittle tired when people refer to the IRAQ war as Bush's war when it was congress that approved the war & funded it as well. The president can only sign bills not introduce them to congress. Was it or was it not democratically controlled? I don't recall. Also, weren't there about a dozen "UN" resolutions that were violated not to mention the deadline to turnover "WMD"S, whether real or not?
Second, why must you constantly bring up the fact the Pres Obama is African-American? Everyone is aware of his race (although some would argue the "American" part).
Third, insulting others does nothing to improve your arguement. THIS APPLIES TO BOTH LIBERALS & CONSERVATIVES. Lets try to keep things civil shall we.
Fourth, have you ever seen or watched either Glenn Beck or Rush Limbaugh? I personally like what I hear on Glenn Beck's radio show and don't care much for Rush(reminds me of Sean Hannity),
And since when is it funny to make fun of someone that had a problem with pain control medication. If you have never "walked a-mile" in their shoes then don't criticize. You know not of which you speak.
Fifth, I'd bet you made "A's" in english. Your writing reflects it.
As a registered Democrat, this is beyond the pale.
W is gone, you bunch of retards. Get over it.
Obama's administration has made blunder after blunder. Accept it.
As for the content of this article? I've read more relevant "news" on the stall of a public bathroom.
Let me remind the Dems that on Jan 20, 2009 a new president was sworn in. His job is to protect the nation from our enemies. Pointing the blame on Bush just don't cut it anymore. The buck stops with our president! Putting the blame on someone else shows that the Dems won't accept responsibility for anything bad that happens in this country. The blame falls upon the President and no one else when it concerns the security of our country!
ALL YOU LIBS CAN DO IS PLAY THE BLAM GAME. REMEMBER THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION THAT 9/11 HAPPENED ON THEIR WATCH. THAT IS WHY WE HAD THE PATRIOT ACT. THEY OWNED IT.
THEY NEVER BLAMED CLINTON FOR IT. WE ALL KNOW HOW CLINTON TOOK CARE OF ATTACKS. CAN YOU ALL SAY MONICA LEWINSKY?
SORRY THIS IS OBAMA'S WAR AND HIS ADMINISTRATION IS DOING A TERRIBLE JOB.
YOU ARE ALL AFRAID OF THE TRUTH WITH CHENNY
ENJOY THE NEXT 3 YEARS WITH THIS LIAR AND HIS CLOWNS.
I have been reading the comments after my last post, and comparing them to the lead Article. Here are a modest Dozen proposals to make us safer. (It's a start).
1. Profile people first: profile the hell out of Arabs, Muslims, young men, young men with beards or other facial hair, people going to and from Muslim countries (particularly the "hot spots") women with Burqas, Niquabs or other traditional Muslim dress. And young children of the same (bombs in baby blankets... How loving the Islamist terrorist is).
2. Separate security lines/screening for the above: more intensive treatment than for "us".
3. Full body scans for everyone. More intensive, additional searches for #1 above.
4. The hell with Muslim "modesty" and professed "concern" for the privacy of their women.
5. Remind everyone that it is not "we" who are curtailing freedom and privacy. The above reactions are logical, sensible and effective. It is the Muslim terrorist who is forcing this choice and deprivation on everyone. If any hatred is engendered it should be for the Muslim terrorist, not our response to the terrorism. No terrorism; no intrusion. Its that simple. (This will help with PR for the below suggestions.)
6. Relentlessly pursue CAIR, INSA and the other subversive, front line troops for Jihad. Investigations, Trials, Jail, Expulsion (if warranted).
7. More effective, balanced instruction in the school system re the dangers of Islam, a religious/political/legal system (totalitarian, theocratic Shariah) that is absolutely incompatible with free will and Western values developed in this country.
8. On the military front, create specialized, small scale, "hunter-killer" teams to assasinate as may AQ as possible, irrespective of collateral damage to their families. (Turnabout is fair play).
9. Relenlessly pursue Obama to specifically denounce Muslim, Islamist, Koran inspired Jihad. Force him to give us his thoughts on Koran Surah 9 (The Sword Verses) Surah 5:51, takiyya, and what it means in practice to be a dhimmi, for example.
10. Directly ask Obama to comment on the below pronouncement by one of the greatest and most admired (by Muslims) Islamic scholars ever to live: Ibin Khaldun (1332-1406) author of "An Introduction To History", among other works:
"In the Muslim community, the holy war [jihad] is a religious duty, because of the universalism of the Muslim mission and the obligation to convert everybody to Islam either by persuasion or by force ... The other religious groups did not have a universal mission, and the holy war was not a religious duty for them, save only for purposes of defense ... They are merely required to establish their religion among their own people. That is why the Israelites after Moses and Joshua remained unconcerned with royal authority [e.g., a caliphate]. Their only concern was to establish their religion [not spread it to the nations] … But Islam is under obligation to gain power over other nations".
Ibn Khaldun, The Muqudimmah: An Introduction to History, Franz Rosenthal, trans. (New York: Pantheon, 1958,) vol. 1, p. 473.
Or: Majid Khadduri, War and Peace in the Law of Islam (London: Oxford University Press, 1955), p. 60.
Or, for instance, Ahmed Mahmud Karima, Al-Jihad fi'l-Islam: Dirasa Fiqhiya Muqarina (Cairo: Al-Azhar University, 2003).
Why not take the Muslim for his own expressed intention/philosophy/religious fervor, rather than some PC crap filtered thorough the dreams of Westernized idiots who can't come to grips with the irreduceable truth that there are millions of people eager to slaughter them, for the glory of Allah?
11. Directly ask Obama how many Muslims he thinks it will be necessary to kill to put an end to the problem of Muslim terrorism.
12. No mercy. Its a battle to the death (So says AQ). Why should we not reciprocate? Better Putin's recent comments, than Obama's carefully constructed PC evasivness. But really, what more can be expected of this strange creature we now have foisted on us as our "leader"? Is there something totlitarian, religious or otherwise, about the man?
Have you ever seen such idiots in your life. Under Bush & Cheney we were safe. Under Obama who does not like using the word terriosts, who thinks that if he closes Gitmo & brings the terriost to New York to be put on trial with Americans Constitutional Rights that this is going to impress the rest of the world & let them see how fair they are. I am not interested in impressing the rest of the world or trying to look sweet. This kind of nonsense makes us look weak to the rest of the world & we loose the rest of our respect we use to have. I didn't like Obama making us look weak when he went over to other countries calling us demissive, derissive, & arrogant, which is really a description of himself. Germany & some of the other countries like France that have so many of our soldiers buried over there expect us to look strong the same way we were when we got rid of Hitler, helped to bring down the Berlin Wall & Obama is over their belittling the United States & the American people. Then he goes to Copenhagen telling them how we are going to send them money for third world countries to use for global warming. We can't afford to give anybody any money for global warming. We have got to get our economy going & our people back to work. What is he going to do borrow money from China to give to other countries for global warming. He better start paying China back & stop giving these companies like Freddie & Fannie a blank check & let these people fail. That goes for GM & Chysler, also. If he would stop letting his ego get in the way & freeze spending & cut taxes he would see how quick we can get back on track. But I am beginning to if he wants that to happen. I have almost convinced my self he is out to destroy America, Americans, & our Constitution & Bill of Rights. He has surrounded himself with radicals, socialists, communists, & Marxist just like he said he did when in college. Ayers & Wright have got to be Mighty proud of their community organizer. Have you wondered how many times he has sneaked them into the White House or taking them for a ride on Air Force One? I am sure that there are a lot of people that wish they had never voted for Obama but there are so many stubborn people that refuse to see what he is doing to our country. Socialism & Big Government is not suppose to be in our vocabulary. How we miss the days of old where we never had to worry about things like this. Just keep praying & maybe things will change real soon.
OK Dem's, you got elected, Obama got elected, and amazingly it is still Bush this, Cheney and GOP that. They are no longer in office; have not been for almost a year. When does it become the Dem's problem? I guess it is always someone else's fault and never one you voted for...who is in office...with super majority. Accept some responsibility. Oh yea, when they are building a non partisan health bill then everything that goes wrong for Dem's such as lying to your constituents and having a government for the govt not the people, thats Bush's fault too, right? When will it be Obama's fault? Will it be when the government experiences a backlash in favor of the republicans which could be as unhealthy as having any one party in power completely. So trying accepting responsibility for your actions now and work to correct the problems rather than laying blame.
Little Rock,Ark; attack on recuit office, Fort Hood, Hasan the Jihad, #253 in Detroit///// Not a Criminal attack----They are TERRORIST ATTACKS. Profile These are B-Ho's deficiencieS, Not BUSH! Have him SUCK-IT-UP, the big cry-baby.
They can blame whoever they like.
Bush and Cheney were a great team and served America very well. Sure they made a few mistakes like every president has done but they kept the US safe and strong. That says it all.
If Obama was just a big toe of these 2 guys we could resat easier but he is not. He is a useless little jungle bunny from the CRIME RESORT CHICAGO.
The dems will get smeared at the lections this year and they all know it. Wait for the backlash from moderate seat endangered democrats who will start to protect their peronal careers before jumping on the obama madness.
One aspect that really amuse me is the liberal need for the world to like America. That says it all. They are so lame that they do not even recognise the simple truth that being liked is a lot less important than being respected and feared. Love does not keep evil at bay. Fear does!!
Message for all liberals - GROW UP.
message for obama - resign now!!
The Republican Party will win in 2010. The Democratis Party couldn't protect itself. Thank goodness for President Bush and to he11 with Obama.
You guys are wasting so much energy arguing about Right and Left, Dems and Repubs, The focus should be at government as a whole and not just one person like he runs the whole show. Wisw up people, as soon as we all focus on government as a whole and not just one party....Nothing's going to change. You are doing just what they are wanting - focusing on left / right issues and not doing something about it. If we would all just stop directing the insults at one another and turn the attention directly at the government as a whole, we would become so much more powerful. There is a shadow government that runs the show, NOT THE PRESIDENT!!! It's the same people regardless if there is a Democrat in the house or a Republican. Wise up people!
Listen guys theres no sence in argueing with these racest repugs. They wont listen to any resaon, all they do is hate and blame. if they cant see for themselves that bush and the repugs in the house and sen. are all losers who pander to the wealthy and want nothing more than to be in power and put money in their bank accounts, not caring how bad it hurts this country or its people. they hate the fact that our pres is half black.
bah why am i wasting my time typing this. it will only fall on deaf ears anyhow.
i feel sorry for the usa if fox is aloud to continue braodcasting.
proves my point!!!
racest redneck who listens to fox and most likely has 3 teeth in his mouth and lives in a dbl wide.
"They can blame whoever they like.
Bush and Cheney were a great team and served America very well. Sure they made a few mistakes like every president has done but they kept the US safe and strong. That says it all.
If Obama was just a big toe of these 2 guys we could resat easier but he is not. He is a useless little jungle bunny from the CRIME RESORT CHICAGO.
The dems will get smeared at the lections this year and they all know it. Wait for the backlash from moderate seat endangered democrats who will start to protect their peronal careers before jumping on the obama madness.
One aspect that really amuse me is the liberal need for the world to like America. That says it all. They are so lame that they do not even recognise the simple truth that being liked is a lot less important than being respected and feared. Love does not keep evil at bay. Fear does!!
Message for all liberals - GROW UP.
message for obama - resign now!!
Chris Ko | January 1, 2010 6:31 AM "
Have you ever seen such idiots in your life. Under Bush & Cheney we were safe
i assume you mean AFTER 9/11?
what a moron!!!!
President Clinton led the fight against terrorism over strong opposition from Republicans in Congress and the pro-Republican Media. Here's a partial - yet incredibly long - list of accomplishments against terrorism for which the Clinton Administration gets almost no credit or even recognition. President Clinton:
-- sent legislation to Congress to TIGHTEN AIRPORT SECURITY. (Remember, this is before 911) The legislation was defeated by the Republicans because of opposition from the airlines.
-- sent legislation to Congress to allow for BETTER TRACKING OF TERRORIST FUNDING. It was defeated by Republicans in the Senate because of opposition from banking interests.
-- sent legislation to Congress to add tagents to explosives, to allow for BETTER TRACKING OF EXPLOSIVES USED BY TERRORISTS. It was defeated by the Republicans because of opposition from the NRA.
When Republicans couldn't prevent executive action, President Clinton:
-- Developed the nation's first anti-terrorism policy, and appointed first national coordinator.
-- Stopped cold the planned attack to blow up 12 U.S. jetliners simultaneously.
-- Stopped cold the planned attack to blow up UN Headquarters.
-- Stopped cold the planned attack to blow up FBI Headquarters.
-- Stopped cold the planned attack to blow up the Israeli Embassy in Washington.
--Stopped cold the planned attack to blow up Boston airport.
-- Stopped cold the planned attack to blow up Lincoln and Holland Tunnels in NY.
-- Stopped cold the planned attack to blow up the George Washington Bridge.
-- Stopped cold the planned attack to blow up the US Embassy in Albania.
-- Tried to kill Osama bin Laden and disrupt Al Qaeda through preemptive strikes (efforts denounced by the G.O.P.).
-- Brought perpetrators of first World Trade Center bombing and CIA killings to justice.
-- Did not blame Bush I administration for first World Trade Center bombing even though it occurred 38 days after they had left office. Instead, worked hard, even obsessively -- and successfully -- to stop future terrorist attacks.
-- Named the Hart-Rudman commission to report on nature of terrorist threats and major steps to be taken to combat terrorism.
-- Tripled the budget of the FBI for counterterrorism and doubled overall funding for counterterrorism.
-- Detected and destroyed cells of Al Qaeda in over 20 countries
-- Created a national stockpile of drugs and vaccines including 40 million doses of smallpox vaccine.
-- Robert Oakley, Reagan Counterterrorism Czar says of Clinton's efforts "Overall, I give them very high marks" and "The only major criticism I have is the obsession with Osama"
-- Paul Bremer, Bush's Administrator of Iraq disagrees slightly with Robert Oakley saying he believed the Clinton Administration had "correctly focused on bin Laden. "
-- Barton Gellman of the Washington Post put it best, "By any measure available, Clinton left office having given greater priority to terrorism than any president before him" and was the "first administration to undertake a systematic anti-terrorist effort."
Here, in stark contrast, is part of the Bush-Cheney anti-terrorism record before September 11, 2001:
-- Backed off Clinton administration's anti-terrorism efforts.
-- Shelved the Hart-Rudman report.
-- Appointed new anti-terrorism task force under Dick Cheney. Group did not even meet before 9/11.
-- Called for cuts in anti-terrorism efforts by the Department of Defense.
-- Gave no priority to anti-terrorism efforts by Justice Department.
-- Ignored warnings from Sandy Berger, Louis Freeh, George Tenet, Paul Bremer, and Richard Clarke about the urgency of terrorist threats.
-- Halted Predator drone tracking of Osama bin Laden.
-- Did nothing in wake of August 6 C.I.A. report to president saying Al Qaeda attack by hijack of an airliner almost certain.
-- Bush - knowing about the terrorists' plans to attack in America, warned that terrorists were in flight schools in the US - took a four week vacation.
-- By failing to order any coordination of intelligence data, missed opportunity to stop the 9/11 plot as Clinton-Gore had stopped the millennium plots.
-- Blamed President Clinton for 9/11.
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The 9/11 attacks were not the beginning of Islamic terrorism vs. the USA but the culmination of the repeated failures and unwillingness of the Clinton administration to take action.
1993 al Qaeda terrorists bomb the WTC killing 6. Clinton declares terrorism "a potential threat to national security" - two years later.
1995 van bomb kills 7 (5 Americans) at army training HQ in Riyadh, SA.
1996 January - Clinton ASKED Qatar for HELP in capturing KSM. He disappeared with later disastrous results.
1996 Qatar offers OBL to USA when he and 150 of his aides were refueling en route to Pakistan. Message from Clinton admin. "Let him land and proceed on to Pakistan."
1996 Clinton later admits in a speech in Long Island that he turned down a Sudanese offer to have OBL extradited to USA in that year.
1996 June - truck bomb destroys Khobar Towers in Dhahran, SA killing 19 Americans and injuring 372.
1998 February - OBL formally declares jihad vs. USA military and citizens anywhere in the world.
1998 August - truck bombs at US embassies in Tazania and Kenya; 200 dead, 4500 injured.
1998 December - OBL identified in Kandahar, Afghanistan; no strikes issued for fear of civilian casualties.
1999 February - military strike against OBL aborted due to fears of harming UAE officials.
1999 May - strike vs. OBL again aborted due to concerns over civilian casualties.
2000 October - USS Cole attacked; 17 killed, 39 injured.
Don't you think GWB inherited a pretty bad hand from his predecessor? How often did he play the "blame Clinton" card? 9/11 was a tragedy but GWB's track record after that looks pretty decent.
The Truth | December 30, 2009 7:52 PM
Yeah and dont forget Bush killed Jesus too
Dimwitcrats claim that 9-11 happened under bush, so it's all his fault. Now this happens under Obozo but it's still all Bush's fault. Three years later, anything bad will still be Bush's fault. The Dimwitcrats are like little children who refuse to take responsibility for anything that happens under their watch.
Another example of white trash know nothing.....
"Dimwitcrats claim that 9-11 happened under bush, so it's all his fault. Now this happens under Obozo but it's still all Bush's fault. Three years later, anything bad will still be Bush's fault. The Dimwitcrats are like little children who refuse to take responsibility for anything that happens under their watch."
Ignore FACTS and name call thats all you got?
We dont have to make you look stupid you do it fine all by yourself.
WHere do i begin with this reasoning of this moron? lets take it line by line shall we?
Dimwitcrats claim that 9-11 happened under bush,(CLAIM? ahhh no it DID happen while he was pres!!!) so it's all his fault. Now this happens under Obozo but it's still all Bush's fault.(AHHH ya its his FAULT he let the 2 guys GO that masterminded it so yes he is to BLAME!!) Three years later, anything bad will still be Bush's fault. The Dimwitcrats are like little children who refuse to take responsibility for anything that happens under their watch.(like you retards do huh?)
before you post at least do some research of the subject you WONT look so STUPID and ill informed stop being sheep for FAUX NOISE. i know i know you date sheep but you dont have to act like one.
The ignorant rants of cancervatives only prove their lack of IQ, morals, or functioning personalities. The more the rabid right cries the better off America is. We know you losers can destroyer a country in a few short years, so STFU already. Let the adults take care of your big mess and clean up the stinking pile of feces you all left behind. Happy New Year Progressives.
Hey all you boneheads, our enemies are laughing at your blame games. It doesn't matter who's fault it is, in fact it is just as much Clinton's as it is Bush's fault. There is a tide rising against us, and it will not cease until we are nuked, or otherwise obliterated. Our future existence is stuck in the cog of our bureaucratic gear-works. I guess it is like anything; Nothing will change until more people die. Maybe the world won't change until an entire metropolis is vaporized. Good luck with your useless, empty arguments...we are all just atoms anyway!!!
You know it seems like every body is more interested in placing the blame than in fixing the problem. And it is getting us nowhere.
1993: First attack on the twin towers. Clinton is President. Whose fault Bush I or Clinton?
2001: Twin Towers brought down. Bus II is President. Who do we blame him or Clinton?
2009: Christmas Day bombing attempt. Obama is President. Is the blame on him or Bush II?
The hell with Al Quaeda, lets figure out whether it is the Republicans or the Democrats we need to be warring with.
Talk about being numb in the head, it took 7 minutes for GWB TO REOLIZE THAT 911 HAPPENED, HE SAT IN FRONT OF THOSE POOR CHILDREN AND SCARED THE HELL OUT OF THEM WHILE HE WAS IN HIS STUPPER, HE'S WAS THE DECIDER AND HE DECIDED TO RUIN THE COUNTRY.
It appears that the inept occupant of the whitehouse is going to continue to excuse his inability to pursue a course to victory on the Bush administration, for his four years of destruction of the Constitution!
Typical leftwing tactics! Blame and badmouth the conservatives!
Clinton had his chance to grab Osama BinLaden three times and failed to understand the threat this murdering SOB posed!
Pray that God will bring us back to following the constitutional guide for our country and eliminate the scourge of the present administration and its abject failure to govern, by protecting the constitution and the citizens of this great country! He swore to do this back in January! Another failure to live up to his promises! THE LIST GROWS DAILY!
I find all of this funny... You LIBS are bashing the heck out of Bush n Dick for letting the RAG HEADS out of GITMO and yet that is what pertty much every one of you sick selfish sobs are BEGGING your PERFECT PRES BHO to do... DOES anyone see the how stupid this is and as this is stupid that makes you pushing for the shutting down of GITMO and letting the RAG HEADS LOSE is all on you... What a FINE GROUP OF SELF RIGHTEOUS SCUM BAGS ALL OF YOU ARE!!
This is really sad. Instead of fixing the problem, we're too busy blaming someone else. Obama administration is too busy blaming Bush, right wing people too busy blaming Obama, the right blaming the left and vise versa. What needs to be done is to put those full body scanning machines at airports like in overseas airports. So what if it's politically incorrect or invasion of privacy. I would rather have a little invasion of my privacy than have myself splattered all allover Hell's half acre. I'm all for racial profiling. It's obvious it's not the home grown terrorist here trying to blow up planes but the nut cases from the Middle East. The TSA is too busy checking Americans and not people from the Middle East. My Mother was in a wheel chair with a cast on her leg and they were too busy looking at her cast than watching someone else that could pose a threat. When was the last time you ever heard of a 72 year old woman blowing up a plane. It's time to play hard ball with these nuts and stop worrying about a little political correctness which has run ramped in this country. Do some of you people out there realize that these Islamic nut cases are trying to kill us or do you think that these people deserve the same rights as we do.
The "conservative" talking points I read here and most places are woefully stupid. On just about any topic, namely geopolitic and economic, they remind us of the ghastly depths of their legislative and historic illiteracy.
Draft dodgers George W. Bush and Dick Cheney never gave half a crap about the middle/working class,the troops, Christianity, or finding Bin Laden. And if you can't see that for yourself, you are indescribably dumb.
The fact is that a guy bought a oneway ticket, with cash, and no checked luggage to the US on an international flight using a visa and he wasn't pulled aside for some serious questions.
That alone shows a total failure of the Obama administration. Nobody who shows up buying a oneway ticket with cash and no bags should ever get a pass.
Bush failed too, miserably. They both failed the nation.
The fact is that from open borders to handing out US visas to rich kids like candy this nation follows the wishes of the rich. And that is the major problem. Colleges want rich kids from anywhere, and businesses want cheap foreign labor. So we get a hole filled safety net.
This administration will continue the blame game as long as the media lets them get away with it...Read: Growing all Nostalgic for Bush...at...
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I just got a nose bleed reading that. Really? I could have sworn that we were untouched since 9/11 but yet Bush dropped the ball on Al-Queda? I also could have sworn that Bush had them hiding in the hills during sub-zero temperatures and seeking refuage in neighboring countries, but Bush dropped the ball on Al-Queda? I also thought that the liberals wanted us to pull out of both Iraq and Afghanistan. But now it's Obama who is playing offense? Do liberals even see their own hypocrisy or are they too busy sucking on the golden calf to care? And as for the numb nuts who said Bush got 50+ warnings before 9/11-how many did Clinton get while Monica was under his desk? You should also double check how many attacks we had on U.S. soil during the Clinton era as well. I can tell you that Bush had 1-O N E. Billy Blowjob had several.
Isn't it so easy to finds ways to point fingers at someone when they've served their term and moved on? How quickly have we forgotten that Clinton had the ability and knowledge to take out Bin Laden on several occasions before the situation escalated to the destruction of the twin towers, the pentagon and in the field in PA.
I would also assume that it's Bush's fault that a couple of high society people waltz right into the White House for a visit with the president without an invitation?
Instead of sitting on your pompous butts and pointing your fat fingers cause you want your 5 minutes of fame, you of the congress/senate better find a way to protect this country and stand for the people cause we are just about fed UP! We're tired of the indecision that is costing American lives, the spending, fingers in every single pie(banking, automaking, health care) but most of all were tired of the way that this government is being run by a bunch of blow hards who have no clue....We are a nation in crisis who need a solution not a bunch of lip syncing.
you guys on both sides
are doing nothing for the problem but pointing fingers
we all have to realize we live in a dangerous world, AND THE USA IS PART OF THE WORLD
things have gone wrong and right on this issue for both
administrations, but what we need to do
is fight this as one nation, not which party is the least safest (by body counts, which is sick)
there is not a fail safe system for airport security or the security of the usa. if you guys think it is know less than perfect
and that 1 attack is to much ,then you are living in a fantasy state of mind.
what all the past administration and the current one is trying to do is keep us safe as best as possible.
we as people in the usa kill each other
with cars(dui) and guns and drugs and hate crimes
than a terrorist has done to us since 9/11
yeah, and bush is responsible for the hindenburg, WWII, the titanic, polio, and swine flu as well. you loopy libs are "mentally challenged" as you prefer to say.
Everything worked fine and there is no smoking gun? Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain, then. Liberals once again try to weasel-word their defense of the indefensible with name calling. Very boring, very dangerous, and jihadists don't care.
Awwww! Are the poor little Dems upset because their Fearless Leader is being taken to task for his revival of the feckless "Terrorism is just another Crime Policy"? Weren't these the same clowns who attacked the Bush Administration on everything from the Patriot Act to the War on Terrorism to Bush's Antiterrorism Policies?
Sounds like the shoe is on the other foot and the Dems and their cronies are suddenly crying "foul" ...
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